Calculating angle of a rotation for a line

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the angle required to rotate a line so that it aligns with the positive x-direction. Participants explore the implications of the line's equation, the determination of the angle of rotation, and the practicalities of implementing this in code, particularly in MATLAB. The conversation touches on both theoretical and applied aspects of geometry and programming.

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Main Points Raised

  • Nancy proposes that the angle of rotation, theta, can be derived from the slope of the line using the inverse tangent function, but notes ambiguity in determining the correct theta based on the line's quadrant.
  • One participant questions whether Nancy is referring to a line or a ray, suggesting that the ambiguity in rotation only matters for rays or line segments rotated about a point.
  • Another participant suggests using the two-argument form of the arc tangent function, which accounts for the quadrant of the point, to determine the correct angle for rotation.
  • A later reply indicates that it may not be necessary to compute the angle at all, as rotating a line segment about one end will always result in a specific endpoint regardless of the angle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of calculating the angle of rotation, with some suggesting it is essential while others argue it may not be needed at all. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the definitions of lines and rays, as well as the specific context of rotation (e.g., about a point). The implications of using different mathematical functions for angle calculation are also noted but not fully resolved.

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Hi Guys,

I want to rotate a line so that it lies on the positive x direction. I can determine the equation of the line as y=m*x+c where m is the slope and c is the intercept. The angle of rotation, theta is known by tan inverse of m. Now theta can be either -theta or -(pi+theta) depending on the quadrant in which the line lies.

How can I know which of these thetas i should use directly by looking at the equation of the line. I need to rotate about 400 lines so manually looking at each line can be time intensive. I can use an if else loop in my code to do it automatically.

Thanks.
Nancy
 
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Do you mean a line, or a ray? If you're dealing with a line, then rotating by -theta-pi produces exactly the same result as rotating by -theta. It's only if you're dealing with a ray (or, say, rotating a line segment about one end) that the ambiguity you mention becomes significant.

Every floating point library I know of has a two-argument form of the arc tangent function, arctan(x,y) or ArcTan(x,y) or atan2(x,y), that finds the angle whose tangent is y/x. This two-argument form returns the theta that is right for the quadrant of (x,y), and also deals correctly with the x=0 case (although I gather that's not a problem for you).

You can also do the rotation directly, without ever explicitly calculating the angle. This is the most efficient way.
 
Hi pmsrw3,

Yes I am rotating a line about one point. I translate all the line segments that I am studying to the origin. I want to rotate all the lines so that they fall on the positive X axis. I am using MATLAB. So I need to determine the correct angle for rotation, if not I get segments on the positive and negative axis.
 
If I understand you right, this is much simpler than you think. If you have a line segment from (0,0) to (x,y) and you rotate it about the (0,0) end so that it's horizontal, you will always end up with (l,0) as the new distal endpoint, where l=\sqrt{x^2+y^2} is the length of the line segment. There's no need to compute the angle of rotation at all.
 

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