Calculating Average Speed and Velocity for a Honeybee's Round Trip

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The discussion revolves around calculating average speed and velocity for a honeybee's round trip to a flower, focusing on the concepts of distance traveled and displacement in the context of kinematics.

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  • Participants explore the definitions of distance, displacement, average speed, and average velocity, questioning the implications of zero displacement on these calculations. Some express confusion regarding the formulas and units involved.

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Some participants have provided clarifications on the formulas for average speed and velocity, while others are still grappling with unit conversions and the implications of the results. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note the unconventional units presented in the problem, which may complicate the calculations and understanding of the concepts involved.

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A honeybee leaves the hive, flies in a straight line to a flower 6 km away in 10 min, and then takes 10 minutes to return (also in a straight line).

a.) Please find the distance traveled and displacement for the entire trip:
distance travelled:
I know the distance total is 12 km

displacement: 0

b.) Please find the average speed and average velocity for the entire trip:
average speed:
This is where I get confused. Total distance/rate of change in meters = Average speed. This would mean the speed is undefined.

average velocity:
Same confusion because the algebra would mean this question is undefined with a displacement of zero.
 
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Velocity = distance / time. As long as your time is not zero, it is defined. It's only the denominator that needs to be non-zero.

The average speed is the total distance traveled divided by total time spent traveling.

The velocity is similar, only it involves the total distance traveled in a direction - that is, the velocity on the way back will be the same as on the way out, only negative.
 
Thanks for the correction. I now see that I had the formula wrong. So it is displacement over time, and time is 20 minutes. So velocity is 0/20 and speed is 12/20.
 
That is correct, but they're funny units (kilometres per minute?).

To change to a more physics-y, SI unit, try metres per second:

(12km*1000 m km^-1)/(12mins*60 s min^-1)

=12000/720= whatever it is.
 
They do that deliberately: that is phrase the question in unweildy units, this makes you render more applicable units by the simple fact of expedience.
 

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