Calculating Buffer Solution Volumes for pH 4.6 using Titration Virtual Lab

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the volumes of acetic acid and sodium hydroxide needed to prepare a buffer solution with a target pH of 4.6 using a virtual lab setup. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of buffer preparation, including the use of Henderson's equation and equilibrium considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experience using a virtual lab and provides specific volumes of acetic acid (71 ml) and NaOH (29 ml) but seeks clarification on the calculation process.
  • Another participant suggests using Henderson's equation to determine the necessary amounts of each solution, proposing a system of equations based on the pH and total volume.
  • A further contribution emphasizes the need for an excess of acetic acid in the buffer preparation and discusses the reaction between acetic acid and NaOH.
  • Another participant mentions the relationship between the concentrations of the acid and its conjugate base, referencing the equilibrium constant (Ka) and its implications for calculating the final concentrations after mixing.
  • There is a suggestion to derive a ratio of the volumes of acid and base needed, incorporating the concept of equilibrium concentrations and the initial conditions of the solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various methods and equations for calculating the required volumes, indicating a lack of consensus on a single approach. Multiple competing views on the calculation process and underlying principles remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference assumptions regarding the pKa of acetic acid and the initial concentrations of the solutions, which may affect the calculations. There is also mention of the need to consider equilibrium conditions, which may not be fully resolved in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for chemistry educators, students learning about buffer solutions, and individuals interested in the practical application of titration concepts in laboratory settings.

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I really need help. I am a teacher and can't seem to figure out this problem, although I know I did it once before. I have used a virtual lab and know that you need 71 ml of acetic acid and 29 ml of NaOH, but don't know how to calculate it. Can someone tell me? I know the concentration of H in the solution from the pH and I know the percent ionisation using the K=1.85 X 10^-5. I am pretty sure that you use the ratio of CH3COO- concentration,which is related to the OH- concentration,and CH3COOH concentration, but can't seem to figure it out. Anyway, I hope someone can help me
You have two bottles, one filled with 1M HAc (HAc = acetic acid) and one filled with 1M NaOH. You want to make 100ml of a buffer with pH=4.6 by mixing together appropriate amounts of these solutions. How much of each solution do you use?
 
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You can use Henderson's equation to find the amount of each solution.

pH = pK_a + \log\frac{[Salt]}{[Acid]}

Let the two unknowns (amount of each solution added) be x,y.
One equation is the Henderson's equation and the other is the total volume of the solution is 100ml.

In a bit more detail,
Because you are preparing an acid buffer, you need an excess of the acid.

Now 1ml of Acetic acid reacts with 1ml of NaOH. So If xml of acetic acid and yml of NaOH were added to prepare the buffer, what will be the final concentration of the acid present?It will be the total amount of acid initially minus the amount of acid which reacts with NaOH to form the salt. From this you can find the final concentrations of the acid and the salt after the reaction.Plug those into the equation above. Also, since the total volume of the buffer is 100ml, you have x + y = 100. Solve for x and y to get your required answer
 
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westdavi, please only start one thread on a topic.
 
adding to what siddharth said, you can determine the ratio of the concentrations (and assuming that the pKa of acetic acid is not too far from the desired pH) by solving for the ratio of concentrations in the H-H equation.

This will be the respective concentrations of acid and its conjugate salt required, that is it defines a quantitative relationship between them.

C[HA]=[A-], where C is a constant

Its good that you have equimolar solutions of the weak acid and the strong base.

Next you can use employ the Ka equation, intially, the acid will be in equilibrium, that is it'll have an initial pH

Ka= \frac{[H30+][A-]}{[HA]}~=~ \frac{x^2 }{[HA]-x}

From this you can find the intial acid concentration at equilibrium, the 1M is the formal concentration, not the equilibrium concentration.

C {(V_{acid}[HA_{initial}]-V_{base}1M)}=V_{base}

now you have a ratio of the volume to be employed, if "R" is the ratio Vbase/Vacid, then Vacid + R/Vacid = .1L. Solve for Vacid, then subtract this quantity from .1L to find the volume of the base needed...mix the two volumes and you'll have your buffer.
 

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