Calculating Coulomb Force on a Point Charge in a Square Distribution

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The discussion focuses on calculating the Coulomb force on a point charge of 30μC located at (0,0,5)m due to a uniformly distributed charge of 500μC on a square in the z=0 plane. Participants clarify the setup, noting that the square has sides of 4m and is centered at the origin, with charge distributed along its edges. The integral for the electric field is derived, and the x and y components cancel out, leaving only the z-component for force calculation. The computed force is approximately 4.66 N, which some participants question in relation to the textbook answer, suggesting their calculations may be more accurate. The discussion concludes with a consensus that the calculated force of about 4 N is reasonable compared to the provided answer.
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Homework Statement


Find the force on a point of charge of 30μC at (0,0,5)m due to a 4m square int he z=0 plane between x=±2m and y=±2m with a total of 500μC, distributed uniformly.

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R=-x,-y,+5z
dQ=ρdydx=500/4 dydx

dE=dQ(5az) / (4πε0((x2+y2+25)3/2 )
x and y-axis cancel

How to do integral with x2 and y2 in the denominator?

Ans. 4.66azN
 
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... use the relationship of dQ to dx and dy to make a double integral.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
... use the relationship of dQ to dx and dy to make a double integral.
Simon Bridge said:
... use the relationship of dQ to dx and dy to make a double integral.
 
Actually I really don't understand the question. Area enclosed by x=±2 and y=±2 will be 16m square. What does it means by" due to a 4m square "?
 
azizlwl said:
Actually I really don't understand the question. Area enclosed by x=±2 and y=±2 will be 16m square. What does it means by" due to a 4m square "?
Draw a square 4 m per side. Distribute 500 μC uniformly on the edges (so each side of the square is a line segment with 500/4 μC on it.
 
F1d=3x5x9/16 ∫-22 dy (√29d -yay)/(29+y2)3/2
F1d=8.43 x 0.129 =1.087
The integral value using app integral calculator.
F1z=1.087 x 5 /√29 = 1.009.

Total force= 4Naz less than the answer..
 
azizlwl said:
F1d=3x5x9/16 ∫-22 dy (√29d -yay)/(29+y2)3/2
F1d=8.43 x 0.129 =1.087
The integral value using app integral calculator.
F1z=1.087 x 5 /√29 = 1.009.

Total force= 4Naz less than the answer..
I don't understand what your last line is trying to convey. Can you explain in more detail?
 
4 segments, so I added all that z-axis component. X and y-axis cancelled. The answer is 4.66azN
 
So your result is about 4 N and the answer given in the text is 4.66 N ?

I'm inclined to agree with your result over that of the book.
 
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