Calculating electric fields through integration

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The discussion revolves around calculating electric fields through integration, specifically for an evenly distributed disk and a hollow ring. Participants seek resources and clarifications on the mathematical steps involved in these calculations, focusing on the "on-axis" solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests websites that provide detailed steps for calculating the electric field of an evenly distributed disk and a hollow ring through integration.
  • Another participant inquires whether the request is for the "on-axis" solution or for any point in space.
  • The original requester confirms they are looking for the "on-axis" solution and expresses appreciation for any help.
  • A participant shares several links that may contain relevant information but notes that these resources might skip some steps in the derivations.
  • One participant offers to share their own derivation of the disk solution, which considers a disk of finite thickness and discusses the limit as thickness approaches zero, while cautioning that this approach may not address the original requester's confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus, as participants are still exploring various resources and approaches to the problem without agreeing on a single method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about which specific steps in the derivations are unclear, and there is a potential limitation in the resources provided, as they may not cover all necessary details for understanding the calculations fully.

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Can anyone find a website that shows you how to calculate the electric field by integration for a evenly distributed disk and a hollow ring? I tried figuring it out myself but all the websites I found skipped many steps on the math. Thanks!
 
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EpiGen said:
Can anyone find a website that shows you how to calculate the electric field by integration for a evenly distributed disk and a hollow ring? I tried figuring it out myself but all the websites I found skipped many steps on the math. Thanks!

Are you looking for the "on-axis" solution, or a solution for any point in space?
 
Oh sorry on axis. Anything that would help me understand it would be greatly appreciated!
 
EpiGen said:
Oh sorry on axis. Anything that would help me understand it would be greatly appreciated!

Well there are many links, for example.

http://planetphysics.org/encyclopedia/ElectricFieldOfAChargedDisk.html

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/elelin.html

http://www.phys.uri.edu/~gerhard/PHY204/tsl36.pdf

I'm guessing you've searched and seen these or similar links. I suppose these do skip some steps, but if you look at different links, you may be able to piece the whole thing together.

If not, perhaps you can clarify which parts of these derivations are not detailed enough.

I don't know if this will be useful, but I can provide my derivation of the disc solution that takes a slightly different approach by calculating the answer for a disk of finite thickness (rather than infinitely thin as is usually done). After doing this, I take the limit as the thickness goes to zero to get to the usual answer. I once worked out this derivation for a different question (related to the charged disk) that came up in another forum. I figure I should post it in case one of your points of confusion is the concept of an infinitely thin disk, which is somewhat unrealistic. However, if this is not your point of confusion and if this creates any confusion whatsoever, then just ignore it and focus on the textbook approach.
 

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