Calculating Final Angular Speed in a Rotating System with Added Mass

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final angular speed of a rotating cylinder after a piece of putty is added. Participants emphasize the importance of conservation of angular momentum, stating that the initial angular momentum of the cylinder must equal the final angular momentum of the combined system. The moment of inertia for the putty can be treated as a point mass, calculated using the formula MR². There is some confusion about the correct approach to find the final angular speed, but the key equations involve the initial and final states of the system. Understanding the change in rotational inertia due to the added mass is crucial for solving the problem.
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A solid horizontal cylinder of mass 13.1 kg and radius 1.22m rotates with an angular speed of 2.99 rad/s about a fixed vertical axis through its center. A 0.258kg piece of putty is dropped vertically onto the cylinder at a point 0.853m from the center of rotation, and sticks to the cylinder. What is the final angular speed of the system. Answer in rad/s



Now, I know the solution to this question involves conservation of momentum.
mgh=the sum of rotational and translational kinetic energy

i'm guessing the mass to be used initially is that of the cylinder, while the mass to be used to calculate the P.E from the height, is the mass of the cylinder and putty. Can anyone confirm this?
 
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You'll need to consider the rotational inertia of the system before and after the putty is dropped. How does adding the putty change the rotational inertia?
 
I need help with this one also... any more incite would be appreciated. Not really understanding this problem.
 
Any hint as to what equation to use? pleeeaaassee :)
 
Before the putty is dropped its not rotating so it has no Angular momentum... after its dropped it has a angular momentum...

you have to use the law of conservation of angular momentum where

initial = just cylinder
final = cylinder + putty
for final: w(Icylinder+Iputty)

L=Iw

i think :X
 
but how do you find the moment of inertia for the putty? is it just MR^2?
 
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but how do you find the moment of inertia for the putty? is it just MR^2?
Yes. Just treat it as a point mass. (Note that this thread is quite old!)
 
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