Calculating impact resistance of a silicone wafer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the impact resistance of a silicone wafer, specifically in the context of using it as a fracture barrier to indicate potential damage from drops. Participants explore material options and design considerations for detecting impacts, with a focus on the ability to withstand forces of 20G.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate the impact resistance of a silicone wafer to use as a damage indicator for lightweight parts.
  • Another participant questions whether the silicone wafer refers to a chip or a thin sliver for damage detection, suggesting the need for accelerometers to measure impacts in three axes.
  • A participant clarifies that they are not interested in data recording but rather in a brittle material that will break upon exceeding a certain impact threshold, similar to shipping impact sensors.
  • Glass is suggested as a commonly used material for impact sensors, with a recommendation to use a cantilever configuration for testing breaking loads.
  • The original poster expresses concern that glass slides are too thick and considers using silica wafers or thin rods of glass to meet specific requirements.
  • A participant confirms that rods of glass are available in various sizes, which may be suitable for the application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the suitability of materials, with some advocating for glass while others suggest silicone or silica wafers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best material choice and design approach for the impact detection system.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specific requirements or configurations for the impact detection system, and there are varying assumptions about the properties of the materials discussed.

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Wondering the best way to go about calculating the ability of a silicone wafer to withstand impact. Wanting to possibly use a small pc as a fracture barrier to indicate that a part was dropped and may potentially be damaged. Need it to handle 20G. Alternative mat'l suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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I don't entirely understand the question - is this a wafer as in chip manufacture or just a sliver that you want to use for damage detection in a piece of equipment ?

Either way probably need to detect accelerations in three axes .

For general equipment an accelerometer system and recorder will supply all the information needed . You can buy packaged devices quite cheaply .

To design something yourself have a look at micromechanical systems and microaccelerometers . Etched in for chip wafers and some of the same ideas on larger scale for equipment . Set up to actually break for a one time detection or record the output for later analysis .

Please describe your actual requirements in more detail .
 
Nidum, thanks for your reply. I am not looking to record any data. I am trying find a thin, brittle material that can be used in a manner that should it be dropped, will break when the impact exceeds a predetermined level. Much like the impact sensors found on wooden crates for shipping. If the crate gets dropped accidently, the sensor 'breaks' indicating that a certain force has been exceeded. Because the parts I want to protect are much lighter, I was thinking of using silicone wafer material or something equally brittle.
 
Glass is what is commonly used . Microscope slide sort of thickness . Cantilever with a weight at one end is probably easiest configuration .

Breaking load for cantilever can be estimated using standard calculations . Breaking load for real components will probably show some variation around the calculated figure .
 
Thanks again. The thickness of a glass slide would be too thick that is why I was thinking silica wafer, it can be made very thin and varied to meet different loads. Because of other requirements, I will need to calculate a beam fixed at both ends rather than a simple cantilever perhaps find a thin rod of glass and start there. Appreciate the quick responses
 
Rod of glass is good - they come in many sizes .
 

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