Calculating pipe diameter for half-flow condition/mannings equation

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The discussion focuses on calculating the diameter of a circular channel under half-flow conditions using Manning's equation. The user is attempting to solve a problem involving a discharge of 0.07 m³/s, a Manning's n value of 0.013, and a slope of 0.001. The user correctly identifies the area and perimeter formulas as A = πD²/8 and P = πD/2 but struggles to derive the correct diameter and mean velocity. The final calculations indicate a diameter of approximately 1.21 meters for the channel under the specified conditions.

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Hello,

My knowledge on fluid mechanics is on a introductory level. When explaining, it would be great if you could explain in simple English and also like teaching to a student who isn't very good at the subject area!
I've been reading a lecture slide and have been trying to follow the example to solve my given problem. I don't really understand how the lecturer got certain parts of the solution though (equation hasn't been explained/defined on any of the slides). I don't understand how the lecturer found the diameter or the suitable velocity is for half-flow.

EDIT: The question doesn't require me to find whether the calculated velocity is suitable, but I would like to know how you do find it.

I have attached the slide that I'm using as an example below.

I used A = pi*D^2/8 and P = pi*D/2 as my problem is for half flow condition.

What is wrong? How do I do this correctly?

Thank you for reading. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

Homework Statement



If water flows from Point D at Kinglake to Point E at Sugarloaf in a lined circular channel laid on a slope of 0.001. If Manning’s n = 0.013 and if the design discharge is 0.07 m^3/s, what diameter channel should be designed for a half-flow condition? What will be the mean velocity in the channel for this condition?

Manning’s n = 0.013
Slope = 0.001
Q, Discharge = 0.03m^3/s

Find diameter of channel for half flow condition.
Find mean velocity of channel in half flow condition.

Homework Equations



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Velocity equation:

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The Attempt at a Solution



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A = pi*D^2/8 and P = pi*D/2
Diamter, D = 0.53m^(8/3)

How do I find the diameter required for the channel from this? Is this (above) the diameter? I don't understand on the attachment below, how 0.52m^(8/3) becomes a diameter of 1.21 metres?

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V = 0.07m^3/s/((pi*(0.53)^2)/8) = 0.634 m/s

How do I find whether the velocity I calculated is suitable?
 

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You can't change the formula for the perimeter and/or area of a circle. If you want a half flow condition than divide the flow by 2.
 
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Ok thank you.
 

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