Calculating Resonant Frequencies of Closed Air Columns

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The discussion focuses on calculating the resonant frequencies of a closed air column measuring 60.0 cm in length, using the speed of sound at 344 m/s. The key equations include the fundamental frequency formula f1 = v/(4L) and the harmonic frequency formula fn = (2n - 1)f1. The calculated frequencies for the first and second resonant lengths are 143 Hz and 430 Hz, respectively, with the third resonant length yielding 770 Hz. Participants clarify the calculations and confirm the relationships between the frequencies and resonant lengths. The conversation concludes with an understanding of how to derive the answers for the resonant frequencies.
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Homework Statement



A closed air column is 60.0cm long. Calculate the frequency of the forks that will cause resonance at:

a) the first resonant length
b) the second resonant length

Note that the speed of sound is 344m/s.

Homework Equations



Ln = (2n - 1) * \lambda / 4

fn = (2n - 1)f1, where f1 = V/4L and 4L = \lambda

The Attempt at a Solution



I cannot figure out what the actual magnitude of the resonant length is, and don't know how to begin solving the problem.

Thanks.
 
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On the back of the page, the question additionally asks for the third resonant length.

The textbook provides answers for a, b, and c as 143Hz, 430Hz, and 770Hz respectively. When I reversed the calculations for c), they used a third resonant length of 60.0cm, which was the length of the whole air column.

I still can't figure out how they got the answers for a and b though :S.
 
qszwdxefc said:
On the back of the page, the question additionally asks for the third resonant length.

The textbook provides answers for a, b, and c as 143Hz, 430Hz, and 770Hz respectively. When I reversed the calculations for c), they used a third resonant length of 60.0cm, which was the length of the whole air column.

I still can't figure out how they got the answers for a and b though :S.

Perhaps I misled with my typo, though you wrote it correctly

But to state your equations again:
f1 = v/(4L)
fn = (2n - 1)*f1

4*L = 4*.6 = 2.4

f1 = 343/2.4 = 143

f2 = 3*f1

f3 = 5*f1
 
Makes sense, I understand now.

Thanks again :).
 
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