Calculating Speed of a Block on a Spring: Friction vs. No Friction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a 2.00 kg block attached to a spring with a force constant of 560 N/m, first on a frictionless surface and then with friction. For the frictionless case, the speed at equilibrium is calculated to be approximately 0.9956 m/s using energy conservation principles. When considering a friction coefficient of 0.350, the frictional force is determined, and the energy lost to friction is subtracted from the initial potential energy of the spring. The resulting speed at equilibrium, after accounting for friction, is found to be approximately 0.7636 m/s. The calculations and method used for both scenarios are confirmed as correct.
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A 2.00 kg block is attached to a spring of force constant 560 N/m as in Figure. The block is pulled 5.95 cm to the right of equilibrium and released from rest.

(a) Find the speed of the block as it passes through equilibrium if the horizontal surface is frictionless.
(b) Find the speed of the block as it passes through equilibrium (for the first time) if the coefficient of friction between block and surface is 0.350.

Ee = 0.5kx^2
F = -kx
Ek = 0.5mv^2
Ff = umg

A)
So Ee = 0.5 (560 N/m) (0.0595 m)^2
= 0.99127

Ee gets tranferred into Ek

So 0.99127 = 0.5 mv^2
1.98254 = (2 kg) v^2
v = 0.9956

B)
Ff = umg
= (0.350)(2 kg)(9.8)
= 6.86

I don't kno how to relate the frictional force into energy. I know that the block should be slower than in part A) tho.
 

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brunie said:
I don't kno how to relate the frictional force into energy.
Consider the work that must be done against friction--that will tell you the amount of mechanical energy that is dissipated as "heat".
 
Assuming that this is an intro course and ordinary differential eqns are not to be used, which would lead to a soln w/o using energy,
frictional work=integral(ff)dx where ff is as you state. Multiplying that by 0.0595M should be the energy lost to friction. So you have the potential energy of the spring less the work done by friction equaling Ke as it passes thru equil.
 
ok so
Ek = Ee - (0.0595 m)(6.86 N)
Ek = 0.99127 - 0.40817
0.5 (2 kg) v^2 = 0.5831
v = 0.7636 m/s

would this be right?

thanks in advance to all those who helped
 
I haven't checked your arithmetic, but your method is exactly correct.
 
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