Calculating Speed of Sound in Helium Gas at 293k

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The discussion focuses on calculating the temperature at which the speed of sound in helium gas equals 1482 m/s, the speed of sound in fresh water at 293K. Participants emphasize the importance of unit conversions, particularly for atomic mass, to avoid errors in calculations. Suggestions include using online resources like Google for quick conversions and checking units systematically. One user expresses frustration with the complexity of the problem but ultimately finds clarity with assistance. The conversation highlights the collaborative nature of problem-solving in physics.
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The speed of sound in fresh water at 293k is 1482 m/s. At what temperature is the speed of sound in helium gas the same as that of fresh water at 293k? Helium is considered a monatomic ideal gas (y = 1.67 and atomic mass = 4.003u).
A)442K
B)377K
C)525K
D)313K
E)633K


Homework Equations




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The Attempt at a Solution



Changed equation to --->


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Getting really large numbers...
 
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Check your units. You forgot to do a conversion somewhere.
 
Mike Pemulis said:
Check your units. You forgot to do a conversion somewhere.

I'm guessing it is the atomic mass that needs to conversion...but I can't seem to find it in my lecture notes... is there an equation for it?
 
Good guess. You can look up the definition of an amu on Wikipedia, or Google will just do unit conversions for you. (Type "2 inches in centimeters" and it spits out "5.08 cm." Very handy).

Of course, you still need to know what units to convert amu's into. To figure that out, you can write out all the units on the left-hand side of your last equation, and see what units the atomic mass has to be into get a result in Kelvin. Wikipedia or Google can supply the unit for Boltzmann's Constant if you don't know it.
 
AH I got it, man my professor made this pretty sticky haha. Thanks for the help.

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No problem. :smile:
 
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