Calculating Spring Constant of Compressed Air | Pneumatic Springs

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The discussion centers on calculating the spring constant of compressed air in pneumatic springs, exploring the relationship between force, volume, and pressure. Participants examine theoretical and practical aspects of this topic, including relevant physical laws and equations.

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  • One participant inquires about the calculation of the spring constant of compressed air, referencing the relationship between force and displacement.
  • Another participant asserts that the spring constant is not a constant due to the nature of gases.
  • A participant explains that pressure, volume, and temperature are interrelated, suggesting that as volume decreases, pressure increases, supporting the non-constant nature of the spring constant.
  • It is proposed that under constant temperature, Boyle's law indicates that pressure times volume remains constant, allowing predictions of force based on volume changes and atmospheric pressure.
  • One participant suggests estimating the spring constant using the bulk modulus, providing a mathematical approach that incorporates pressure changes and geometry, while noting that the elastic constant depends on both material properties and geometry.

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Participants express differing views on whether the spring constant can be considered constant, with some arguing for its variability based on gas behavior and others providing methods to estimate it under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding a definitive approach to calculating the spring constant of compressed air.

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Participants mention various assumptions, such as constant temperature and small compressions, which may affect the applicability of their proposed models. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific definitions and the geometry of the system.

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How do you calculate the spring constant of compressed air? I know force = k * integral(dx). How do you relate volume to the force?
 
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it is not a constant
 
pressure, volume and temperature are all related with a single formula
as volume goes down, pressure goes up, hence the non-constant comment from Curl
 
But you can say that, if the temperature is constant, the pressure times the volume is constant (Boyle's law). So, if the piston of the gas strut is in a certain position (corresponding to a certain volume) for a certain load plus atmospheric pressure, it will go to half that volume if the total load is doubled.
Starting with 1 atmosphere in the unloaded strut, if the area of the cylinder is A (in m2), then the force to compress it to half that volume (twice atmospheric pressure) will be about 10e4A N.

It doesn't follow Hooke's Law, of course, but you can predict the force needed for a given displacement. Actually, because of the Law involved, you can measure a bigger range of forces using an 'air spring' than a steel coiled one.
 
You can estimate it by using the bulk modulus.
If you have a gas of volume V and want to compress it by \Delta V, you need an increase of pressure
\Delta p = -B \frac{\Delta V}{V}
B can be found for both isothermal or adiabatic processes and for air is of the order of 10^{-5} Pa.
If you apply this to a cylinder of length L and area A,
then
\Delta p = F A
and
\frac{\Delta V}{V}=\frac{\Delta L}{L}
Then
\frac{F}{\Delta L}=- \frac{B A}{L}
and assuming a constant B for small compressions, you could say that the term on the right hand side is the elastic constant of the cylinder.
It depends on the geometry too, not only on the properties of the material. Same as for a real spring.
 

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