Calculating Tension in Frictionless and Massless Pulley Systems

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in various pulley systems that are frictionless and massless. Participants analyze different configurations, concluding that for two pulleys holding weight W, the tension is W/2, while for three pulleys, the tension is W/3. The importance of using Free Body Diagrams (FBD) to visualize forces acting on each pulley is emphasized, as it aids in understanding the distribution of tension. The conversation highlights that tension remains constant throughout a massless string, and participants work through the mechanics step-by-step to clarify their reasoning. Overall, the thread provides insights into the principles of tension in pulley systems.
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Give the correct tension, T, in the marked rope for each situation. The rope is held so the system is stationary. All ropes and pulleys are massless and frictionless.

Follow link for a picture of the pulley systems: http://i.imgur.com/2eBZpC3.jpg




A) T = W
B) T = W/2
C) T = W/3
D) T = 2W
E) T = 3W/2
F) T = 2W/3
G) T = W/7
H) T = W/5
I) T = 2W/7
J) T = 2W/5


1) I figure that the two pulleys holding the weight W each have a tension of W/2, making the first B) T = W/2

2) The three pulleys holding the weight W each have a tension W/3, and the pulley holding the two pulleys connected to the weight must have a tension of 2W/3, making the second F) T = 2W/3

3) The three pulleys holding weight 2W each have a tension 2W/3, and the pulley ropes holding those pulleys each have a tension of 2W/3, divided by 2 = 2W/6 = W/3. This makes T = W/3

4) I'm not quite sure how to do this one

Thanks for your help!
 
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Hi BMcC

Welcome to PhysicsForums!

Instead of the guessing game,first understand the concepts ,and take one step at a time.Get in the habit of making Free Body Diagram(FBD). Consider the two pulleys separately ,identify and clearly draw all the forces acting on them.

Remember tension in a massless string is same throughout its length.

Look at the figure I have attached.Consider the lower left pulley.

The forces acting on it are tension(2-green upwards),T downwards and tension (1-Blue downwards).

The tension throughout the string over the pulley is same .Since the force exerted on the left part of the string is T ,the tension in the right part(1-Blue) is also T .Next consider the top pulley.The tension in the left part of the string(2-green) should be 2T .Why?

Because since the lower left pulley is massless ,the net force on it should be zero.It is being pulled down by a force 2T(T downwards from left end and T downwards from right end) .So tension in the left part of the string((2-green) should be 2T.

This 2T gets transmitted throughout the string over the top pulley .So tension on the right part of the string (3-Red)over the top pulley is 2T .

Now can you figure out what is the upward force on weight W ?
 

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There's a way to analyze these systems to eliminate the guesswork.

Isolate each sheave and make a free body diagram.
 
So the upward force on weight W for #1 would be 3T?
 
BMcC said:
So the upward force on weight W for #1 would be 3T?

Yes...
 
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Then in 2), would the upward force on weight also be 3T? from the T/2 + T/2 on the small pulleys, then +2T from the long rope on the far right?
 
BMcC said:
Then in 2), would the upward force on weight also be 3T? from the T/2 + T/2 on the small pulleys, then +2T from the long rope on the far right?

Yes...Very Good :)
 

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