Calculating Tension on a Ramp with Inclined Load and Friction

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To calculate the tension needed to prevent a 600 N sack from sliding down an 18-degree ramp with a rope at a 25-degree angle, the frictional force must be considered. The correct tension to prevent sliding is 18.2 N, which was initially overlooked due to the assumption that friction was absent. The discussion highlights the importance of accounting for static friction, even when the object is not in motion. The user initially calculated a tension of 204.6 N without factoring in friction. Understanding the role of static friction is crucial for accurate tension calculations on inclined planes.
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Homework Statement


A sack of weight 600 N is being loaded on to a truck up a ramp inclined at 18o to the horizontal. A rope attached to the sack is held at an angle of 25o to the ramp. The coefficient of friction between the sack and the ramp is 0.3. What tension in the rope is needed:
a. To prevent the sack from sliding down the ramp.
b. To pull the sack up the ramp at a steady speed



Homework Equations


F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


The manual wrote the answer for (a) is 18.2 N. I can't find it. My work for (a) :

W sin 18o = T cos 25o

T = 204.6 N

What am I missing ?

Thanks
 
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You have not taken into account the frictional force while calculating T.
 
Hi rl.bhat

Oh my god...I thought there is no friction because it didn't move. That was a very stupid mistake. Thanks a lot !
 
songoku said:
I thought there is no friction because it didn't move.

Of course there is - it's called static friction.
 
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