Calculating the velocity of a molecule

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a molecule using the function f(v)=v²e^(-mv²)/(2kT) and finding its derivative. The user successfully derived the formula for the derivative and set it to zero to find the velocity, leading to the equation v=√(2kT/m). However, confusion arose regarding the final answer, which was stated as 1500 km/h in the book. Another participant clarified that by correctly converting units from m/s to km/h, they arrived at a similar answer of 1501 km/h, emphasizing the importance of unit conversion in scientific calculations. The conversation highlights the necessity of always considering units to avoid errors in problem-solving.
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Hi, I'm stuck on a problem. I have this function that represents the velocity:
f(v)=v2e(-mv2)/(2kT)

T is the temperature and equals 293.15K
m = 4.65 .10-26 kg
k = 1.38 .10-23 J/K

The problem wants us to find the derivative of the function. I found:
df/dv= (2v) e(-mv2)/(2kT)+v2e(-mv2)/(2kT)(-2mv/2kT)
= ve(-mv2)/(2kT) (2- (mv2/kT))


I know the derivative I found is right, but now, I have to find the velocity for df/dv=0

We know v>0 and ex>0
So, df/dv=0 => (mv2)/kT = 2
=> v= √(2kT/m)


That's where I'm stuck. The book tells me the answer is 1500km/h.
I don't understand this solution. I calculated many many times and didn't found the right solution. Can someone please help me? :cry:
 
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What answer did you get? Did you get 417? What are the units of that?
If you got a different answer, can you show us exactly how you got it? Your formula looks right.
 
mjc123 said:
What answer did you get? Did you get 417? What are the units of that?
If you got a different answer, can you show us exactly how you got it? Your formula looks right.

Yes, I got 417!
I just plugged in all the values in the last equation that I wrote, v= √(2kT/m).
Since k is in J/K, T in K and m in kg, the unit of v is J/kg.
J also equals kg m2 s-2 so I assume the unit of v can also be m2s-2?
 
Oh, I got it! My answer is then in m.s-1 and I just need to multiply by 3.6.
417*3.6=1501 km.h-1

Thank you for the help :)
 
Can't emphasise enough the importance of thinking UNITS, UNITS, UNITS; ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS! It will save you a lot of trouble and avoid a lot of mistakes, both with homework questions like this and real problems in doing science.
For example, if you are asked for a velocity, the answer CANNOT be (e.g.) 417. It must be 417 SOMETHING - m/s, km/h, furlongs per fortnight or whatever. If you did that you would immediately see that your answer was not necessarily wrong, but another step was needed.
 
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