Calculating Torque of a Solid Cylinder

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To calculate the torque on an armature approximated as a solid cylinder, the relevant formulas include T = F * r and T = I * α, where I is the rotational inertia and α is the rotational acceleration. Given the mass, radius, and the change in velocity, the first step is to convert the operating speed from rpm to meters per second. Using Newton's second law, the acceleration can be determined, leading to the calculation of I using I = 1/2 * m * r^2. The final torque is calculated by multiplying I and α, resulting in a torque of approximately 2.86 Nm. This approach effectively combines linear and rotational dynamics to solve the problem.
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I am attempting to the following question:
How large is the torque that act on an armature?

Particulars: (can be approximated as a solid cylinder)
radius of .081 m
length of .124 m
mass of 13.13 kg
Accelerated from REST to operating speed of 3530 rpm in 5.57 second

I know T = F*r
I'm not sure where to start.
 
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You are given the mass, the radius, and a change in velocity over a given time interval.

Think of the problem another way:
T = F x r
from Newton's 2nd law: F = m*a
a = dv/dt
so you have: T = m dv/dt x r
start by converting the given velocity into meters per second, then calculating the acceleration. from there it is plug and chug
 
Newton's 2nd law - for rotational motion

Schu said:
I know T = F*r
I'm not sure where to start.
You'll need to apply Newton's 2nd law for rotational motion:
\tau = I \alpha

You are given all the information needed to calculate I (the rotational inertia) and \alpha (the rotational acceleration).
 
Just to make sure you know that \tau = r \times F not \tau = F \times r, it makes a difference. And ||\tau||= rF\sin \phi
 
Now ya'll have me confused again, I thought I was all set with the first formula,
T = f * r. Now where does Newtons Second Law fit into it to get the rotational movement.

Take me step by step if you would.
Thanks for the help so far
 
Good point, Corneo. (But it won't matter for this particular problem.)
 
Schu said:
Now ya'll have me confused again, I thought I was all set with the first formula,
T = f * r. Now where does Newtons Second Law fit into it to get the rotational movement.
T = r X F is true, but not helpful in this problem. Are you given the force? No.

This is just the rotational analog to an "F = ma" problem. Instead of m, you calculate I; instead of a, you calculate α. Then apply T = I α.

Give it a shot.
 
Ok check to see if I am OK on this;
we know T = I α
I = 1/2 mr^2 and α = a / r
so plug it in
I = (1/2) 13.13 * .081^2 = .043072965
α = (29.9425 / 5.57)/.081 = 66.36633641
Multiply the two together for T and you get 2.8585 Nm

How'd I do??
 
Looks good. Note that you can calculate \omega directly from the rpm, then use it to calculate \alpha = \omega/t. Just convert rpm to radians/sec.
 
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