Calculating Train Speed Using Centripetal Force | 15° Angle, 150m Radius

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the train's speed before a derailment on a curve with a 150 m radius and a 15-degree angle. The initial calculations incorrectly used gravitational acceleration, leading to a miscalculation of speed. The correct gravitational acceleration is 9.8 m/s², not 9.8 m/s, which caused confusion in unit consistency. Proper unit conversion is emphasized, highlighting the importance of using the SI unit system for accurate results. Ultimately, the calculations suggest that the train's speed was significantly underestimated.
Slam

Homework Statement


There is a subway derailed. Radius of an unbanked curve is 150 m. An unused strap hangs at a 15 degrees angle to the vertical just before the accident. Did the train exceed 35 km/h and what speed was it at just before the accident.

Homework Equations


F=ma=m(v^2/r)

The Attempt at a Solution


The angle of the Normal force is 75 degrees counterclockwise to the horizontal axis. The x-component of Force is m(v^2/r)=Ncos75
The y-component of Force is 0=Nsin75-mg
m=(Nsin75)/g Substitute this in for m in the x-component
((Nsin75)/g)(v^2/r)=Ncos75
v^2=g*r*tan75
g=35.28 km/h
r=.150 km
v=4.44 km/h
 
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You have the wrong numerical value for g. Probably resulting from using the wrong physical dimension. The gravitational acceleration is 9.8 m/s^2, not 9.8 m/s. The unit km/h is a unit of velocity, not of acceleration.

You should note that your equation would not be dimensionally consistent if g had dimension L/T.
 
Slam said:
g=35.28 km/h
This is dimensionally and numerically incorrect..
Work with consistent units: 1km = 1000m
1hr = 3600 sec.
That's why they invented the SI unit system! :smile:
Everything else you did looks right.
The answer is way higher than what you came up with.
 
Slam said:
g=35.28 km/h
As others have noted, your problem is a failure to keep track of units. If you multiply 9.8m/s2 by 3.6 (km/h)/(m/s) you get 35.28 km/h/s. Multiplying that by .15 km yields units of km2/h/s, not (km/h)2.
 
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