Calculating Vertical Distance of a Thrown Pebble from a Pyramid

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The discussion focuses on calculating the vertical distance a pebble travels when thrown off a pyramid's slope, assuming negligible drag forces. The equations derived include the relationship between horizontal and vertical components of motion, utilizing trigonometric identities for angles related to the slope. The final expressions for vertical distance incorporate the pebble's initial velocity and the angle of the slope, leading to a simplified formula that includes secant functions. Participants suggest refining the calculations and clarifying the relationships between the variables involved. The conversation concludes with a streamlined formula for vertical distance based on the derived equations.
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Homework Statement



A pebble is thrown off the side of a pyramide perpindicular to its slope. Find the vertical distance h under the assumption the drag forces are negligible.

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vx=vcos(90-Q) Q = theta
vy=vsin(90-Q)

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x = vxt; therefore t = \frac{x}{v_x} = \frac{x}{v_{x}cos(90-Q)}

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tanQ=\frac{y}{x}; therefore y = xtanQ

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y=yo + vyt - \frac{1}{2}gt2

y= \frac{xv_{x}sin(90-Q)}{v_{x}cos(90-Q)} - \frac{9.8}{2}(\frac{x}{v_{x}cos(90-Q)})2

y= xtan(90-Q) - \frac{4.8x^{2}}{v^{2}cos^{2}(90-Q)}


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Set both y's equal to each other

xtanQ = xtan(90-Q) - \frac{4.8x^{2}}{v^{2}cos^{2}(90-Q)}

tanQ = tan(90-Q) - \frac{4.8x}{v^{2}cos^{2}(90-Q)}

now I am going to solve it for x

x = \frac{v^{2}cos^{2}(90-Q)[tanQ-tan(90-Q)]}{-4.8}

and now i pluf it into y = xtanQ

y = \frac{v^{2}tanQcos^{2}(90-Q)[tanQ-tan(90-Q)]}{-4.8}

seems a little to messy, did i miss somethig
 

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It is right. But you can put it in a better form.
write tan(90 - Q) = cot Q
cos(90 - Q) = sin Q
 
Take care, the slope goes downwards so y = -xtanQ. And 9.8/2 =4.9.

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-tanQ = tan(90-Q)-\frac{4.9x}{v^{2}cos^{2}(90-Q)}

x = \frac{v^{2}cos^{2}(90-Q)}{4.9}[tan(90-Q) + tanQ]

x = \frac{v^{2}sin^{2}Q}{4.9}[cotQ + tanQ]

y = -\frac{v^{2}tanQsin^{2}Q}{4.9}[cotQ + tanQ]


so there is nothin left to do with this one
 
In the last step put cotQ = 1/tanQ and simplify.
 
y = \frac{-v^{2}sin^{2}Q[1 + tan^{2}Q]}{4.9}
 
joemama69 said:
y = \frac{-v^{2}sin^{2}Q[1 + tan^{2}Q]}{4.9}
1 + tan^2θ = sec2θ
 
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