Calculating Voltage Difference in a Cylindrical Shell

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the voltage difference in a cylindrical shell with a given charge density. Participants are attempting to apply the formula for voltage difference and clarify the correct parameters to use in their calculations.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving a cylindrical shell with a specified charge density and asks for the voltage readings at two different points.
  • Another participant questions the units of the distances provided, suggesting that clarity is needed for proper calculations.
  • A participant asserts that the equation used is valid for one measurement but not for the other, prompting a request for clarification on the reasoning behind this distinction.
  • Multiple participants express confusion regarding the correct values for the inner and outer radii used in the voltage calculation, with one participant suggesting that the outer radius should be 10.7 cm instead of 4.5 cm.
  • There is a reiteration of the inner radius as 6 cm, but frustration is expressed over the lack of clarity regarding the units of the other distances mentioned.
  • A participant requests assistance in solving the problem after struggling to find the correct answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct parameters to use in the voltage calculation, and there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the distances involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the units of measurement for the distances involved, and the appropriateness of the formula used for different scenarios is contested.

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.A very long insulating cylindrical shell of radius 6.00 cm carries charge of linear density 8.90*10^-6 C/m spread uniformly over its outer surface.
*What would a voltmeter read if it were connected between the surface of the cylinder and a point 4.70 above the surface. and What would a voltmeter read if it were connected between the surface and a point 1.00 from the central axis of the cylinder?

I started with this equation
delta V= ( lemda/ 2pi epslion) (ln(rb/ra))
 
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distance units? 4.7 ?, 1.0 ?

kimm said:
I started with this equation
delta V= ( lemda/ 2pi epslion) (ln(rb/ra))

Ok so presumably you've substituted your numbers into this formula and got an answer. What exactly is the problem?
 
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BTW. Assuming the above are both in units of cm, then your equation is valid for the first measurement but not for the second one. Do you know why?
 
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i did like this
(8.90* 10^-6/ 2 pi 8.85*10^-12)ln (4.5/6)
i got -39084.73
but the answer was wrong
what i am not sure about is ln ra and ln rb
i substituted ra cm and rb 4.5 cm
 


ra is 6 cm
 


kimm said:
i did like this
(8.90* 10^-6/ 2 pi 8.85*10^-12)ln (4.5/6)
i got -39084.73
but the answer was wrong
what i am not sure about is ln ra and ln rb
i substituted ra cm and rb 4.5 cm

Well for one I don't even get that answer when I use your numbers. Double check your calculator usage.

In any case the numbers you're using are not correct. I think you should be using Ra = 6cm and Rb = 10.7 cm.

Are the distances of 4.7 and 1.0 methioned in you question in cm ?
 


kimm said:
ra is 6 cm

Oh thanks for clarifing that. It was the ONLY distance in your original question that you did include units for. So what a great idea to repeat that one instead of clarifying the units of the other distances that you didn't include units for. I'm going to give up here.
 


Guys I reallly thought about it but i have not found an answer can some one solve it.
 

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