Calculating Work Done by Friction

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To calculate the work done by friction on a 16.6 kg mass being pulled at an angle with a coefficient of friction of 0.181, the normal force must be accurately determined by considering both the weight of the mass and the vertical component of the pulling force. Initial calculations attempted to simplify the problem by neglecting the influence of the pulling force on the normal force, leading to incorrect results. The correct approach involves calculating the normal force as the difference between gravitational force and the vertical component of the applied force. Suggestions included using a more precise value for gravitational acceleration and ensuring all components of the equations reflect the correct signs. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the importance of accurately accounting for all forces when calculating work done by friction.
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Homework Statement


There's a mass (16.6 kg) on a surface with kinetic coeficient of friction 0.181. it's being pulled by a constant force of 161 N at 26 degrees above the horizontal. The block is displaced 39.1 meters. Calculate the work done by friction.

Homework Equations


Friction = (mu)Fn, F=ma
W = fd

The Attempt at a Solution


I've tried to do this 2 ways now, both ended up wrong:
First I thought the force doesn't matter since you know mu and the mass and the displacement. so i thought the work done by friction would equal (16.6)(9.8)(0.181)(39.1)
since friction = mu Fn and W = Fd.

My second attempt, which i only tried because the first was wrong, factored out the vertical component of the pulling force when finding the normal and friction.
 
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Yeah, to get the frictional force, you need to know the normal force, and the normal force is going to depend on the other vertical forces that act on the object.

Can you post the work you did for the second method?
 
sure.
mg = (9.8)(16.6)= -162.68 N
Fy = 161 sin(26.6) = 72.08921314 N
so Fnet down/ -Fn = -90.59078686 N
then W(fric) = (39.1)(0.181)(90.59078686) = -641.1200577 J
 
I understand that you're trying to indicate direction with the negative, you should make sure that it appears in all parts of the equation.

I can't find anything wrong with your answer, try using 9.81 instead of 9.8, and possibly a positive answer instead of a negative answer. It might have been asking (not clearly) for the magnitude of the work, or was expecting you to use a specific value of g.
 
I must've been tired and mixed up the 16.6 kg and 26 degrees, so i used 26.6 degrees when calculating instead. i feel dumb xD
 
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