Can you derive a formula for the critical angle when pulling a thread roll?

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The discussion centers on deriving a formula for the critical angle at which a thread roll begins to move instead of unwinding. It emphasizes the application of Newton's first law, noting that the angular acceleration and speed remain constant at zero. The critical factor is the need for a net torque to be applied about the axis of rotation for the thread roll to start unwinding. The conversation suggests that the final formula will likely incorporate concepts of center of mass and the radius of the thread roll. Understanding the relationship between torque and the critical angle is essential for solving the problem.
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Hello, the question itself is pretty abstract.
When pulling a thread roll, there is an critical angle, where the thread does not start to unwind itself. Instead, the thread roll itself starts to move.
Derive an formula for determining that critical angle.

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Most probably it is about using the Newtons' first law, as the angular acceleration and speed remains constant (0).

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I think the final formula will include centermass conception and radius of the thread-roll. But I have no idea, from where to start..
 
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To start unwinding (i.e. change its state of rotational motion), the thread roll needs to have a net torque applied to it about the axis of rotation. So if the torque is zero about the axis of rotation, the thread roll will not start unwinding. Start from there.
 
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