Can't Find Error in Application of Gauss's Law

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The discussion revolves around a problem applying Gauss's Law to a nonconducting sphere with two layers of charge. The user is confused about their calculations for the electric field in the region between the two layers, specifically for the inner sphere's contribution. They initially calculated the electric field incorrectly due to not accounting for the charge density of the inner layer properly. After receiving clarification, they realized they needed to adjust their calculations by considering the charge density of the inner sphere correctly. The final correct expression for the electric field includes contributions from both layers, confirming the importance of accurate charge density in such problems.
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Can't find the error I made... Rudimentary problem i know but i can't find where my mistake is...

Homework Statement


A nonconducting sphere is made of two layers. The innermost section has a radius of 6.0 cm and a uniform charge density of -5.0 C/m3. The outer layer has a uniform charge density of +8.0 C/m3 and extends from an inner radius of 6.0 cm to an outer radius of 12.0 cm. Determine the electric field for: ... (b) 6.0 cm < r < 12.0 cm

Homework Equations


Gauss's Law \oint\vec{E}\text{dA=}\frac{Q_{encl}}{\epsilon_{0}}

The Attempt at a Solution


Basically I would find the electric field due to the inner layer and then the outer layer and add them together.
Starting with the outer layer:
\tex{E(4}\pi\tex{r^{2})=}\frac{1}{\epsilon_{0}}\tex{(}\frac{r^{3}}{r_{0}^{3}}\tex{)Q}
\tex{E=}\frac{1}{\tex{4}\pi\epsilon_{0}}\tex{(}\frac{r}{r_{0}^{3}}\tex{)Q}
\tex{E=}\frac{1}{\tex{4}\pi\epsilon_{0}}\tex{(}\frac{1}{0.12^{3}}\tex{)(}\frac{4}{3}\pi\cdot\tex{0.12^{3})(8)r
{E=}\frac{8}{3\epsilon_{0}}{r}
{E=3.0}\cdot{10^{11}r}\hspace{1 pc}\frac{N\cdot\tex{m}}{C}
so far so good i think
now for the internal part...
{E(4}\pi\tex{r^{2})}=}\frac{Q}{\epsilon_{0}}
{E=}\frac{1}{4\pi\tex{r^{2}}\epsilon_{0}}{(}\frac{4}{3}\pi\tex{0.06^{3})(-5)
{E=}\frac{-0.00108}{3\cdot\tex{(8.9\cdot{10^{-12})r^{2}}}}
{E=-4.1}\cdot{10^{7}}\frac{1}{r^{2}}

however there is the problem... i don't see where my mistake was in that second part, but the book says the second part of the Electric Field from the core sphere should be -1.1x10^8/r^2...

so confused maybe its just too late (early) but any help is appreciated
 
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Does the book explicitly state that the electric field from the inner sphere is -1.1 x 10^8/r^2, or does it state the electric field between two radial distances?
 
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Gear300 said:
Does the book explicitly state that the electric field from the inner sphere is -1.1 x 10^8/r^2, or does it state the electric field between two radial distances?

The book gives the answer as exactly:
-(1.1 x 10^8 N*m^2/C)/r^2 + (3.0 x 10^11 N/C*m)r

And as my outer shell matches the second part of their answer exactly, i can only assume that the first part is what my inner shell should amount to...
 
Your calculation for the outer shell assumes you have a solid sphere, including the region r&lt;0.06~\mbox{m}. To compensate for that, the book used a charge density of -13 C/m^3 for the inner sphere.
 
vela said:
Your calculation for the outer shell assumes you have a solid sphere, including the region r&lt;0.06~\mbox{m}. To compensate for that, the book used a charge density of -13 C/m^3 for the inner sphere.

OH! I see!

Yea for anyone else that might stumble here from google like i always do, I forgot to subtract out the inside of the outer sphere.

Thank you vela!
 
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