Capacitance 3 dielectrics sandwiched between two conductors.

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The discussion centers on calculating the capacitance of a system with three dielectrics sandwiched between conductors, where the dimensions of the conductors are unspecified. The user has derived the potential difference equation but is confused about the area of the conducting plates, which affects capacitance calculations. They assume the plates have the same dimensions as the dielectrics but question if only the overlapping area contributes to capacitance. Responses clarify that while the approximation holds for large dielectric constants, the given k-values are not large enough for this assumption to be valid. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the geometry of the conductors in relation to the dielectrics for accurate capacitance calculations.
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Find that capacitance of the system consisting of 3 dielectrics w/ length, l=1.0m, width, w= 1.0m and depth, d= 1.0 CM. ##k_1=1.5, k_2=2, k_3=2.5## *dimensions of conducting plates not given*

Equations: Capacitance, ##C= Q/{\delta}V##

Field in the dielectrics
##E={\frac{\sigma}{k{\epsilon}_0}}##

I've found the fields in each dielectric, and the potential difference in each, but I'm getting hung up there. I've gotten down to, ##|{\delta}V|=({\frac{Q}{A{\epsilon}_0}})({\frac{1}{k_1}}+{\frac{1}{k_2}}+{\frac{1}{k_3}})##

My problem is, the A refers to the area of the conducting plate, but as i pointed out, nothing is said concerning dimensions of those plates.

Is there another method that does not care about the area that I'm missing?
 
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You can assume the plates have the same dimensions as width and length of the dielectric materials.
 
That's what I thought, but the diagram provided clearly shows that conductors being larger than the dielectrics.

Is the portion that is the same dimension as the dielectrics the only portion if the conductor that has any effect?
 
That's what I thought, but the diagram provided clearly shows that conductors being larger than the dielectrics.
Can you show this diagram?
Is the portion that is the same dimension as the dielectrics the only portion if the conductor that has any effect?
No. For large k this is a good approximation (as you can neglect the air then), but your k-values are not large.
 
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