Capacitance of a spherical cell

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The discussion focuses on calculating the capacitance of a spherical cell membrane, given its thickness and dielectric constant. The initial approach incorrectly used the thickness as the inner radius, leading to an incorrect capacitance value. Participants clarified that the correct method involves defining the inner radius as the outer radius minus the thickness, which is crucial for accurate calculations. The formula for capacitance was refined to account for the small difference between the inner and outer radii, leading to a more accurate result. Understanding the relationship between the radii and the thickness is essential for solving similar problems in electrostatics.
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Homework Statement



A cell membrane is composed of lipid molecules and approximately 10.29 nm thick. If the dielectric constant of the lipid is kappa= 5 , what is the approximate capacitance of a spherical cell that has a diameter of 10.29 micro meters?

Homework Equations


E=KQ/r^2
C=Q/deltaV=1/K(1/r1-1/r2)
r2=D/2




The Attempt at a Solution


So I've come up with the final solution for to get the answer is Kappa*C=>Kappa(1/K(1/r1-1/r2). I'm not really sure what I am doing wrong, but I keep coming up with answers like 5.72e-18F, which is incorrect. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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You need to show exactly how you came up with that number. Otherwise, we can't figure out why it is incorrect. Do you know the correct answer?
 
I don't know the correct answer.
so what I did was used the aforementioned formula and insterted all the values(after converting them). My guess is I went wrong somewhere with the (1/r1-1/r2). I used the thickness for r1 and the diameter of the sphere/2 for r2. anyway, here is the what I got:
5(1(8.99e9((1/1.029e-8m)-(1/1.029e-5/2))))=5.73e-18
 
You cannot use the thickness for r1. In the expression for the capacitance r1 is the inner radius and r2 is the outer radius. The thickness is d = r2 - r1. Now note that this thickness is one-thousandth of the diameter, very thin. You need an approximation. What do you get for the difference

\frac{1}{r_1}-\frac{1}{r_2}

after subtracting the fractions? Do it with symbols - don't put in numbers yet.
 
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so r1=(d/2)-thickness
that makes a lot more sense and yielded a correct answer!
thanks a bunch!
 
Not what I had in mind, but with today's calculators, I guess it is possible. For whatever it's worth, this is where I was going

<br /> \frac{1}{r_1}-\frac{1}{r_2}=\frac{r_{2}-r_{1}}{r_{2}r_{1}}\approx\frac{d}{r^{2}}<br />

The last approximation is valid because the radii are so close to each other. It is a useful approximation to know.
 
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