Calculating Train Speed Using Centripetal Force | 15° Angle, 150m Radius

In summary, the conversation discusses a subway accident and the calculation of the train's speed before the accident. The radius of the curve and the angle of an unused strap are given, and the equation F=ma=m(v^2/r) is used to solve for the train's speed. The incorrect use of units is pointed out and corrected in the final response.
  • #1
Slam

Homework Statement


There is a subway derailed. Radius of an unbanked curve is 150 m. An unused strap hangs at a 15 degrees angle to the vertical just before the accident. Did the train exceed 35 km/h and what speed was it at just before the accident.

Homework Equations


F=ma=m(v^2/r)

The Attempt at a Solution


The angle of the Normal force is 75 degrees counterclockwise to the horizontal axis. The x-component of Force is m(v^2/r)=Ncos75
The y-component of Force is 0=Nsin75-mg
m=(Nsin75)/g Substitute this in for m in the x-component
((Nsin75)/g)(v^2/r)=Ncos75
v^2=g*r*tan75
g=35.28 km/h
r=.150 km
v=4.44 km/h
 
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  • #2
You have the wrong numerical value for g. Probably resulting from using the wrong physical dimension. The gravitational acceleration is 9.8 m/s^2, not 9.8 m/s. The unit km/h is a unit of velocity, not of acceleration.

You should note that your equation would not be dimensionally consistent if g had dimension L/T.
 
  • #3
Slam said:
g=35.28 km/h
This is dimensionally and numerically incorrect..
Work with consistent units: 1km = 1000m
1hr = 3600 sec.
That's why they invented the SI unit system! :smile:
Everything else you did looks right.
The answer is way higher than what you came up with.
 
  • #4
Slam said:
g=35.28 km/h
As others have noted, your problem is a failure to keep track of units. If you multiply 9.8m/s2 by 3.6 (km/h)/(m/s) you get 35.28 km/h/s. Multiplying that by .15 km yields units of km2/h/s, not (km/h)2.
 

1. How do you calculate train speed using centripetal force?

To calculate train speed using centripetal force, you will need to know the radius of the curve (in this case, 150m) and the angle of the curve (15°). Then, you can use the formula v = √(r * g * tanθ) to calculate the speed of the train. In this case, the speed would be approximately 16.65 m/s.

2. What is centripetal force?

Centripetal force is the force that keeps an object moving in a curved path. It is directed towards the center of the curve and is necessary to maintain the object's circular motion.

3. Why is the angle of the curve important in calculating train speed using centripetal force?

The angle of the curve is important because it affects the amount of centripetal force required to keep the train moving in a circular motion. The steeper the angle, the greater the centripetal force needed.

4. How does the radius of the curve affect the train's speed?

The radius of the curve directly affects the speed of the train. A larger radius means a gentler curve, requiring less centripetal force and resulting in a lower speed. A smaller radius means a sharper curve, requiring more centripetal force and resulting in a higher speed.

5. Is there a maximum speed a train can travel on a curved track?

Yes, there is a maximum speed that a train can safely travel on a curved track. This is determined by the radius of the curve and the angle of the curve. If the train exceeds this maximum speed, it may derail due to insufficient centripetal force.

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