Centroid of a uniform shape, using area

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The discussion revolves around calculating the centroid of a uniform area using integral calculus. Participants clarify the correct application of constants in the centroid formula, particularly the treatment of 'k' in the integrals. There is a debate on whether to integrate with respect to x or y, with a consensus that vertical strips (x-coordinates) are necessary for accurate calculations. The importance of correctly applying the area element 'dA' in the integration process is emphasized. Overall, the conversation focuses on ensuring proper mathematical procedures for finding the centroid's coordinates.
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Homework Statement


Find the coordinates of the centroid of the uniform area.
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Homework Equations


equations for centroid coordinates at the top of my paper.

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How does k go from the denominator to the numerator of your integrals as you are evaluating them?
 
Dr. Courtney said:
How does k go from the denominator to the numerator of your integrals as you are evaluating them?
(2/3k)(58.1)
=(.667k)(58.1)
=38.7k
where k is a constant. And i treated the other integral similarly.
 
In one of your steps you basically said ##\sqrt{\frac{y}{k}} =\frac{1}{k}\sqrt{y}##

Also Dr. Courtney's point still stands... it's not 2/3k it's 2/(3k)
 
Nathanael said:
In one of your steps you basically said ##\sqrt{\frac{y}{k}} =\frac{1}{k}\sqrt{y}##

Also Dr. Courtney's point still stands... it's not 2/3k it's 2/(3k)

Ok thanks Dr. Courtney and Nathanael. I now have 38/k. In my final answer the k's cancel out and I am left with the same 7.5/38.7.
 
38.7/k is still not right. It should be 38.7/√k

When you find the x-coordinate of the centroid, you should be integrating with respect to x.
The "dA" in the formula ##\bar x=\frac{1}{A}\int xdA## is the area of the thin strip between x and x+dx.
 
Nathanael said:
38.7/k is still not right. It should be 38.7/√k

When you find the x-coordinate of the centroid, you should be integrating with respect to x.
The "dA" in the formula ##\bar x=\frac{1}{A}\int xdA## is the area of the thin strip between x and x+dx.
Wouldnt it be easier to integrate with respect to y, because of the shaded region is above the curve.
 
It's not about what is easier, it's simply wrong.

When you integrate with respect to y, you are taking horizontal strips of area, right? Well when you find the x-coordinate of the centroid you want to take vertical strips of area. The reason for this is that you want to take strips of area which all have the same x-value, and then multiply them by that x-value. You just can't do this when you integrate w.r.t. y.
 
Nathanael said:
It's not about what is easier, it's simply wrong.

When you integrate with respect to y, you are taking horizontal strips of area, right? Well when you find the x-coordinate of the centroid you want to take vertical strips of area. The reason for this is that you want to take strips of area which all have the same x-value, and then multiply them by that x-value. You just can't do this when you integrate w.r.t. y.
##\bar x=\frac{1}{A}\int xdA##
= ##1/2 \int kx^3dx## does this look ok?
 
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J-dizzal said:
##\bar x=\frac{1}{A}\int xdA##
= ##1/2 \int kx^3dx## does this look ok?
kx2dx is the area under the curve. Try to figure out a way to find the area above the curve.

Also where did the 1/A go? And where did this 1/2 come from? (Are you saying the area is 2?)
 
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