Changing integration limits from [0,a] to [0, inf)

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The discussion centers on transforming the integral from limits [0, a] to [0, ∞) while maintaining equivalence. The integral transformation is explored using the substitution \( u = \tan\left(\frac{\pi x}{2a}\right) \), leading to the expression \( \int_0^a f(x) \, dx = \frac{2a}{\pi} \int_0^{\infty} f\left(\frac{2a}{\pi} \tan^{-1}(u)\right) \frac{1}{1+u^2} \, du \). However, it is established that such a transformation is generally not feasible for arbitrary functions \( f(x) \) due to the dependency of the integral on the specific interval [0, a]. The discussion concludes that while a constant \( c \) can be derived if both integrals are finite, this does not apply universally.

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Homework Statement
This isn't really homework, but a question I came upon when doing my homework.

How can I go from an integral with limits 0 and a:

<br /> \int_0^a f(x) dx<br />

to something with limits 0 and \infty (still giving the same answer)

<br /> c\int_0^\infty f(u) du<br />

, where c is some kind of constant.

The attempt at a solution
I've tried substituting x with tan(\frac{\pi x}{2a}), since this seems to give the correct limits, but I don't know if it makes any sense, and what to do next (how to find c for example).
 
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PerUlven said:
Homework Statement
This isn't really homework, but a question I came upon when doing my homework.

How can I go from an integral with limits 0 and a:

<br /> \int_0^a f(x) dx<br />

to something with limits 0 and \infty (still giving the same answer)

<br /> c\int_0^\infty f(u) du<br />

, where c is some kind of constant.

The attempt at a solution
I've tried substituting x with tan(\frac{\pi x}{2a}), since this seems to give the correct limits, but I don't know if it makes any sense, and what to do next (how to find c for example).

You can't, in general. The integral of f(x) for 0 ≤ x ≤ a depends only on the value of f(x) for x between 0 and a, while the integral of f(u) for 0 ≤ u < ∞ depends on the values of f(u) for all positive values of u, including values u > a. The behaviour of f on [0,a] may be essentially unrealated to the behaviour on [a,∞).

Now, of course, if both integrals are finite, you can get c by dividing one by the other, but that is trivial and probably not what you had in mind. You cannot do that at all if the integral over [0,a] is finite while that over [0,∞) is infinite.

RGV
 
I think it is not possible to change limits from some value to infinity for an unkown function... I can be wrong but I never saw any such thing before
 
PerUlven said:
Homework Statement
This isn't really homework, but a question I came upon when doing my homework.

How can I go from an integral with limits 0 and a:

<br /> \int_0^a f(x) dx<br />

to something with limits 0 and \infty (still giving the same answer)

<br /> c\int_0^\infty f(u) du<br />

, where c is some kind of constant.

The attempt at a solution
I've tried substituting x with \tan(\frac{\pi x}{2a}), since this seems to give the correct limits, but I don't know if it makes any sense, and what to do next (how to find c for example).

If you make the substitution, \displaystyle u=\tan\left(\frac{\pi x}{2a}\right)\,, then \displaystyle x=\frac{2a}{\pi }\tan^{-1}(u)\,, so that \displaystyle dx=\frac{2a}{\pi }\frac{1}{1+u^2}du\ .

This gives: \displaystyle \int_0^a f(x)\,dx<br /> =\frac{2a}{\pi }\int_0^{\infty} f\left(\frac{2a}{\pi }\tan^{-1}(u)\right)\frac{1}{1+u^2}du\,, which is probably not what you wanted.
 
Thanks a lot guys. This is what happens when I sit and wonder about mathematics and physics into the night!
 

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