Check if a scalar is an eigenvalue of a matrix

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To determine if the scalar λ=1 is an eigenvalue of a matrix A, it is necessary to find a non-zero vector v such that Av=λv. The discussion clarifies that from Av=v, one cannot conclude A=I, since this only indicates that v is a solution to the homogeneous system (A-I)v=0. If A-I is invertible, the only solution is v=0, while if it is not invertible, there can be non-zero solutions as well. An example is provided where a non-identity matrix A has eigenvalue 1 with specific vectors. Ultimately, λ is not an eigenvalue of A if the only solution is the trivial one.
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Homework Statement


We have a matrix Anxn (different than the identity matrix I) and a scalar λ=1. We want to check if λ is an eigenvalue of A.

Homework Equations


As we know, in order for λ to be an eigenvalue of A, there has to be a non-zero vector v, such that Avv

The Attempt at a Solution


Avv
Av=1v
Av=v
A=I

But we know that A is different than I, so λ is not an eigenvalue of A.
Is my attempt right?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
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danielpanatha said:

Homework Statement


We have a matrix Anxn (different than the identity matrix I) and a scalar λ=1. We want to check if λ is an eigenvalue of A.

Homework Equations


As we know, in order for λ to be an eigenvalue of A, there has to be a non-zero vector v, such that Avv

The Attempt at a Solution


Avv
Av=1v
Av=v
A=I

But we know that A is different than I, so λ is not an eigenvalue of A.
Is my attempt right?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Your last equation is nonsense. From Av = v you cannot conclude that A = I. All you can conclude is that v must be a solution of the homogeneous linear system (A-I)v = 0.

RGV
 
In particular, the only operations defined on a vector space are addition of vectors and multiplication or division by a scalar. You cannot "divide both sides" by a vector.

(If Av=Bv for all vectors, v, then you can conclude that A= B. But not if Av= Bv for some vector, v.)
 
In other words, you can't divide both sides of the equation by the vector v. Linear operators like \underline A may be written down using matrices and said to operate on vectors through matrix multiplication, but what's really going on is that A is a linear function, which is why trying to factor v from both sides is nonsense.

Eigenvalues satisfy the characteristic equation that \det (\underline A - \lambda \underline I) = 0.

(PS. In particular, a linear operator acting on a vector has a general form \underline A(v) = (v\cdot e_1)a + (v \cdot e_2)b + (v \cdot e_3)c + \ldots{} where a,b,c are vectors. Unless you know something about the structure of the operator, dividing both sides by a vector doesn't give you anything useful.)
 
Thank you all for your replies.
One last question:
If we think of this theoretically, in the equation Av=v, there has to be a matrix A that will be multiplied by v and the result will be the same vector v. I understand that we cannot divide both parts of the equation by v, but could you please give me an example with a non-identity matrix A and a non-zero vector v that satisfy the equation Av=v?
 
Sure. Consider a linear operator on \mathbb R^4.

\underline A(e_1) = e_1 \\<br /> \underline A(e_2) = -e_2 \\<br /> \underline A(e_3) = e_3 \\<br /> \underline A(e_4) = -e_4

Any linear combination of e_1, e_3 is an eigenvector of this operator with eigenvalue 1.
 
Muphrid said:
Sure. Consider a linear operator on \mathbb R^4.

\underline A(e_1) = e_1 \\<br /> \underline A(e_2) = -e_2 \\<br /> \underline A(e_3) = e_3 \\<br /> \underline A(e_4) = -e_4

Any linear combination of e_1, e_3 is an eigenvector of this operator with eigenvalue 1.

Thank you!
 
danielpanatha said:
I understand that we cannot divide both parts of the equation by v, but could you please give me an example with a non-identity matrix A and a non-zero vector v that satisfy the equation Av=v?
$$A = \begin{bmatrix}1 & 1\\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}$$
$$\lambda = 1, v = \begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}$$
 
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Mark44 said:
$$A = \begin{bmatrix}1 & 1\\ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}$$
$$\lambda = 1, v = \begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}$$

Thanks!
 
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If (A - I)v = 0, what condition needs to be satisfied in order for v not to have the trivial solution v = 0?

Chet
 
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Chestermiller said:
If (A - I)v = 0, what condition needs to be satisfied in order for v not to have the trivial solution v = 0?

Chet
If A - I is invertible, the only solution is v = 0.
If A - I does not have an inverse, then v = 0 is still a solution, but there are also nonzero solutions.

So in both cases, v = 0 is a solution. The only difference is whether that is the unique solution or it is one of an infinite number of solutions.

You can tell whether a square matrix is invertible -- its determinant is nonzero. If an inverse does not exist, the determinant is zero.
 
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Mark44 said:
If A - I is invertible, the only solution is v = 0.
If A - I does not have an inverse, then v = 0 is still a solution, but there are also nonzero solutions.

So in both cases, v = 0 is a solution. The only difference is whether that is the unique solution or it is one of an infinite number of solutions.

You can tell whether a square matrix is invertible -- its determinant is nonzero. If an inverse does not exist, the determinant is zero.

Thanks Mark. That was the response I was trying to elicit from the OP.

Chet
 
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Yes, but you phrased it poorly- by leaving out a single word! You said, "If (A - I)v = 0, what condition needs to be satisfied in order for v not to have the trivial solution v = 0?"

v= 0 is, as Mark44 said, always a solution. What you meant to say was, "If (A - I)v = 0, what condition needs to be satisfied in order for v not to have only the trivial solution v = 0?"

Notice, by the way, that the "eigenvalue" question is "existence and uniqueness" turned on its head. A solution, the trivial solution, always exists for the equation Av=\lambda v. \lambda is an eigenvalue if and only if that solution is NOT unique.
 
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