Chemical terminology for an electron in water

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The discussion revolves around the terminology used to describe electrons in water, specifically the terms "solvated electrons," "hydrated electrons," and "aquated electrons." Participants explore whether these terms are interchangeable or if they denote different concepts within the context of chemistry and electron behavior in aqueous environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that "solvated" and "hydrated" electrons may be synonymous when water is the solvent, but they note uncertainty regarding the term "aquated."
  • One participant mentions that "solvated" could be a broader category than "hydrated," which specifically implies water as the solvent.
  • Another participant shares personal experience from their thesis work, indicating that there are various stages of electron solvation and hydration, including terms like "wet electrons."
  • Some participants express a lack of specific knowledge but offer interpretations based on their understanding of the terminology.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the terms are interchangeable or distinct. Multiple viewpoints are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise definitions and implications of the terms.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the terminology may depend on the context of the research and the definitions used in specific scientific papers. There is also mention of potential language influences on the use of the term "aquated."

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I've read several papers that talk about electrons in water, clearly they don't last very long as they react quickly with the oxygen. But I'm confused about the terminology they use, some call them solvated electrons, some hydrated electrons and others aquated electrons.

I can't seem to find a place that uses more than one of the above, so I'm assuming they are the same thing? Or are they different? Is it a question of terminology or do they mean something different?

Thanks again for any help with this.
 
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I do not have specific knowledge about this, but were I to see those different terms in scientific papers, I would assume that they all mean the same thing.

Hydrated will mean the same thing as solvated when water is the solvent. I've never head the term "aquated" before (only "aqueous"), and venture to guess that it comes from researchers whose mother tongue is not English. The word is not found in the OED.
 
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DrClaude said:
I do not have specific knowledge about this, but were I to see those different terms in scientific papers, I would assume that they all mean the same thing.

Hydrated will mean the same thing as solvated when water is the solvent. I've never head the term "aquated" before (only "aqueous"), and venture to guess that it comes from researchers whose mother tongue is not English. The word is not found in the OED.

Yes I thought the same thing. Thanks very much for your opinion on this.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvated_electron - I believe solvated is a broader category than hydrated (which suggests water as a solvent).

But when it is clear the solvent is water solvated and hydrated would mean the same. At least to me.
 
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When I did my thesis my thesis, in the neighbouring department they were doing measurements on the various stages of electron solvation and hydration, specifically, using ultrashort laser pulse spectroscopy. There were various stages identified, like e.g. "wet electrons".
Here is a citation of their paper:
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.2155481
 
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DrDu said:
When I did my thesis my thesis, in the neighbouring department they were doing measurements on the various stages of electron solvation and hydration, specifically, using ultrashort laser pulse spectroscopy. There were various stages identified, like e.g. "wet electrons".
Here is a citation of their paper:
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.2155481

This could be very useful for me, thanks.
 

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