Engineering Circuit Analysis with VCCS and VCVS

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The discussion centers on solving a circuit analysis problem involving a Voltage Controlled Current Source (VCCS) and a Voltage Controlled Voltage Source (VCVS). Participants are trying to determine resistor values given the relationships R3 = 2*R2 and R2 = 10*R1, aiming for a gain of Gv = 1000. Initial calculations led to confusion, with one user consistently arriving at R3 = 500 ohms, while the book states R3 should be 5 k ohms. Ultimately, it was revealed that the book contained an error, and the correct value for R3 should be 0.5 k ohms instead of 5 k ohms. This clarification resolved the discrepancies in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


For the circuit in Figure P1.42, suppose R3 = 2*R2, and R2 = 10 * R1. Find the resistor values so that Gv = Vout/Vin = 1000.

question42-1.jpg


Homework Equations



V = IR

for Voltage Controlled Current Source - i(t) = gm * vx
for Voltage Controlled Voltage Source - v(t) = μ * vx



The Attempt at a Solution



Everytime I try to figure out the resistor values I get R3 = 500. The answer is R3 = 5 k ohms which the book gives us.
 
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Unless I'm losing my mind, it looks like Vout = 5V2, which is independant of the value of R3.

How do you come up with your answer?
 
lewando said:
Unless I'm losing my mind, it looks like Vout = 5V2, which is independant of the value of R3.

How do you come up with your answer?

I said that
Vin = Iin*R1

V2 = .8*Vin * R2
= .8 (Iin*R1) * R2

Vout = 5*V2
= 5 * (.8 (Iin*R1) * R2)
 
I think R3 is only needed to calculate Iout not Vout.

Rest deleted as I made a mistake.
 
Those look fine. If you combine

V2 = .8*Vin * R2

and

Vout = 5*V2

you can get an expression for Vout/Vin as a function of R2 only.

Using your stated constraint for R3 = 2R2, I also come up with R3 = 500 ohms.
 
lewando said:
Those look fine. If you combine

V2 = .8*Vin * R2

and

Vout = 5*V2

you can get an expression for Vout/Vin as a function of R2 only.

Using your stated constraint for R3 = 2R2, I also come up with R3 = 500 ohms.

Is it possible that we are a factor of ten off?
 
I think it is more likely that your book is off by a factor of 10. Are you sure that R3 = 2*R2? Maybe an additional set of eyes on this problem might build the case against your book.
 
lewando said:
I think it is more likely that your book is off by a factor of 10. Are you sure that R3 = 2*R2? Maybe an additional set of eyes on this problem might build the case against your book.

This is the question from the book:

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As it turns out, the book was off. It was supposed to say .5 k Ω and not 5.
 
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That's great! Thanks for the closure.
 

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