Circuits: Current and Energy of Capacitor

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between current and energy in a capacitor within the context of circuit analysis. Participants are examining the application of Kirchhoff's voltage law and the interpretation of voltage measurements across a capacitor and a source voltage over time.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are verifying the original poster's approach to calculating the current through a capacitor based on the slope of the source voltage. There are discussions about the signs in the equations and the implications of voltage measurements across the capacitor and the source. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of voltage signs and the application of Kirchhoff's law.

Discussion Status

There is a collaborative exploration of the problem, with participants agreeing on certain aspects of the approach while questioning specific details about voltage signs and measurement conventions. Multiple interpretations of the voltage relationships are being considered, indicating a productive dialogue without a clear consensus yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential ambiguities in the voltage measurements and the application of circuit rules, which may affect their understanding of the current through the capacitor. The original poster's reliance on a specific figure for voltage slopes is noted, but the exact details of that figure are not provided in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


I am just looking for someone to verify that my approach is correct.
i(t) is the current through the capacitor and w(t) is the energy stored in the capacitor.

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Homework Equations



For a capacitor, the current through it can be related to the voltage drop across the capacitor:

[tex]i_c = C\frac{dv_c}{dt}[/tex]

where C is the capacitance (a constant in this case).

The Attempt at a Solution



The source voltage is given (as function of time) pictorially in figure 1.2.21. From Kirchoff's voltage law, we know that [itex]v_c(t) = -v_{source}(t)[/itex] Hence we can find the slope [itex]dv_c/dt = -dv_{source}/dt[/itex].

From the figure, from t = -1 to t =0, the slope of the source voltage is 2, hence the capacitor voltage's slope is -2. So the current through the capacitor is -2*C from t = -1 to 0.
 
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I agree with that answer and approach.
It does seem that there are two extra minus signs in there, though. The voltage on the capacitor is the same as the voltage on the generator - no negative. In fact, when you put your voltmeter across the generator, you are also putting it across the capacitor. I guess there would be a negative sign necessary if you are switching the leads when you measure the voltage on the capacitor.

The slope on the graph is negative 2, not positive 2.
 
Delphi51 said:
I agree with that answer and approach.
It does seem that there are two extra minus signs in there, though. The voltage on the capacitor is the same as the voltage on the generator - no negative. In fact, when you put your voltmeter across the generator, you are also putting it across the capacitor. I guess there would be a negative sign necessary if you are switching the leads when you measure the voltage on the capacitor.

The slope on the graph is negative 2, not positive 2.

Hmmm... The slope on the source voltage graph is -2. That is why I think that the slope of the voltage of the capacitor is positive 2.

KVL implies that vsource + vcap = 0 yes?
 
We are looking at things slightly differently, both correct!
I would naturally put the red lead of the voltmeter on the top of the capacitor and the black on the bottom. Same for the source. You are going around the circuit in a clockwise direction, keeping the black lead ahead of the red, as you would when using the rule that the sum of the voltages around a closed loop is zero.

Anyway, the top of the capacitor is positive and the (positive) current flows down through it.
 

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