Clarification on thermodynamics concepts of state function, exact differential

In summary, there are different types of functions in thermodynamics, some of which are state functions and some are not. Heat is an inexact differential, but can be converted into an exact differential through the use of integrating factors. The concept of state function is only meaningful in a state of equilibrium, and thermodynamics is a fully time-dependent theory with many open questions.
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I would like someone to explain to me the correlations between these thermodynamics concepts:

1 State function/conservative force/reversibility
2 State function/exact differential

Some functions in the phase space of a system are state function some are not. Is this simply an empirical fact or is there something deeper about it?

AFAIK, heat, for instance, is an inexact differential, but it is also given by the mass times the specific heat times the variation in temperature so it is also expressible as an exact differential. How can it be?

Is the concept of state function only meaningful in a state of equilibrium?

What is the role of time in thermodynamics? Why we always write equation without any reference to time? Is it possible to write an equation of evolution of a thermodynamics system just like the laws of motion in classical mechanics?
 
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aurorasky said:
I would like someone to explain to me the correlations between these thermodynamics concepts:

1 State function/conservative force/reversibility
2 State function/exact differential

Some functions in the phase space of a system are state function some are not. Is this simply an empirical fact or is there something deeper about it?

AFAIK, heat, for instance, is an inexact differential, but it is also given by the mass times the specific heat times the variation in temperature so it is also expressible as an exact differential. How can it be?

This is indeed a deep question. Part of the answer was given by Caratheodry

http://www.jstor.org/stable/2100026

"state space" in thermodynamics is a contact space, not a symplectic space. "conservative" mechanical theories occur in symplectic space (exact differentials, etc), while dissipative systems occur in a contact space. It's possible to embed the contact space into a symplectic structure, but that has a restricted region of validity (AFAIK).

aurorasky said:
Is the concept of state function only meaningful in a state of equilibrium?

What is the role of time in thermodynamics? Why we always write equation without any reference to time? Is it possible to write an equation of evolution of a thermodynamics system just like the laws of motion in classical mechanics?

I suspect you have been shown equations of thermostatics- thermodynamics is a fully time-dependent theory, and thermokinetics is a linearized version of thermodynamics. The fully dynamic theory has not been completely formulated in any useful sense- there are still many open questions.
 
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aurorasky said:
AFAIK, heat, for instance, is an inexact differential, but it is also given by the mass times the specific heat times the variation in temperature so it is also expressible as an exact differential. How can it be?

To heat an object, you not only change its temperature, but also its volume and pressure. The specific heat will generally depend on both volume and pressure (and whatever else). So the amount of energy imparted by heating is path dependent.

While it is not true that heat is both and exact and inexact differential, the above argument is not complete in the sense that we can make an exact differential dS, out of an inexact differential dQ, by dS=dQrev/T.

If a differential satisfies some "Maxwell relation", it is an exact differential. A factor such as 1/T which converts inexact dQrev to exact dS is called an integrating factor. http://pruffle.mit.edu/3.016-2005/Lecture_20_web/node2.html

In defining dS=dQrev/t, we have to specify that the heating occurs during a reversible process. A reversible process is a quasistatic process in which the work done is frictionless. If the process is not quasistatic, then the state variables are not defined during the process, and we don't know how to do the path integral. If work is done against friction, running a force backwards generates as much heat as running it forwards, so dQ/T cannot be zero even though the system is back in its initial state (in a sense, if there is irreversible work, we haven't properly included the heat into our equations for every stage of the process).
 
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FAQ: Clarification on thermodynamics concepts of state function, exact differential

1. What is a state function in thermodynamics?

A state function is a thermodynamic property that depends only on the current state of a system, regardless of how the system reached that state. It is independent of the path or process that was used to reach that state.

2. Can you give an example of a state function?

Temperature, pressure, and internal energy are all examples of state functions. They only depend on the current state of the system and are not affected by the process used to reach that state.

3. What is an exact differential in thermodynamics?

An exact differential is a type of mathematical expression used to describe a state function. It represents the change in a state function as a system undergoes a change in state. It is exact because it does not depend on the path or process used to reach that change in state.

4. How is an exact differential different from an inexact differential?

An inexact differential represents a change in a property that is not a state function. These types of differentials depend on the path or process used to reach a certain change in state. An exact differential, on the other hand, only depends on the current state of the system and is not affected by the process used to reach that state.

5. Why are state functions and exact differentials important in thermodynamics?

State functions and exact differentials are important because they allow us to accurately describe and predict the behavior of thermodynamic systems. They provide a way to quantify changes in a system and understand the relationships between different properties. Additionally, they help us to analyze and design thermodynamic processes, such as heat transfer and work, in an efficient and accurate manner.

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