Coefficient of static friction of a sliding box

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To determine the coefficient of static friction for a box on a 34-degree incline, a parallel force of at least 235 N is required to prevent it from sliding down, with the box weighing 800 N. The discussion emphasizes the importance of first drawing a clear diagram to visualize the forces acting on the box. Participants clarify that the friction force acts in the opposite direction of the applied force, which is crucial for understanding the problem. The conversation highlights the need to analyze the forces involved rather than jumping straight to formulas. A clear understanding of the forces will lead to the correct calculation of the coefficient of static friction.
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Homework Statement



A box rest on an incline making a 34 angle with the horizontal. It is found that a parallel force to the incline of at least 235 N can prevent the box from sliding down the incline. If the weight of the box is 800 N, find the coefficient of static friction between the box and the incline.

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Just wanted to know what formula to use or at least how construct the formula.


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Didn't know where to start.
 
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DB91 said:

Homework Statement



A box rest on an incline making a 34 angle with the horizontal. It is found that a parallel force to the incline of at least 235 N can prevent the box from sliding down the incline. If the weight of the box is 800 N, find the coefficient of static friction between the box and the incline.

Homework Equations



Just wanted to know what formula to use or at least how construct the formula.
Hi DB91. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

You are not needing a formula yet! The first step is to draw a clear, neat diagram, to mark on everything you know here.

Post that when you've done it. :wink:
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Hi DB91. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

You are not needing a formula yet! The first step is to draw a clear, neat diagram, to mark on everything you know here.

Post that when you've done it. :wink:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=d83d1b3b4d&view=att&th=144c131a0bf54f59&attid=0.1&disp=emb&realattid=ii_144c1315a9dabb9a&zw&atsh=1
 
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Would it be: (800×9.8 sin⁡34)/235 = f
 
DB91 said:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=d83d1b3b4d&view=att&th=144c131a0bf54f59&attid=0.1&disp=emb&realattid=ii_144c1315a9dabb9a&zw&atsh=1
Your image doesn't show up. (I doubt that that is a link to an image, anyway.)
 
I'll try a different address

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Your image is accessible now. (I think you have included a lot of whitespace in it?)

The question refers to an arrangement of forces needed "to prevent the box from sliding down" the incline. So this tells you the direction in which friction will be acting in your forces diagram. So, in what direction will friction be acting here, and why have you decided it must be in this direction?
 
NascentOxygen said:
Your image is accessible now. (I think you have included a lot of whitespace in it?)

The question refers to an arrangement of forces needed "to prevent the box from sliding down" the incline. So this tells you the direction in which friction will be acting in your forces diagram. So, in what direction will friction be acting here, and why have you decided it must be in this direction?

The friction force would be acting in the opposite direction of the force applied on the box. Right?
 
DB91 said:
The friction force would be acting in the opposite direction of the force applied on the box. Right?
Not necessarily. It depends on what the applied force is tending to do.

How could you work out the correct answer to this?
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Not necessarily. It depends on what the applied force is tending to do.

How could you work out the correct answer to this?

(800×9.8 sin⁡34)/235 = f...?

Sorry physics is defiantly not one of my strong points.
 
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Well, if the box were sitting stationary on the incline, and needed no extra external force to keep it steady, what direction would you be drawing the arrow showing the friction force that is acting on the block?
 
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