Collisions -- conceptual questions

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This discussion focuses on elastic collisions between two particles, specifically analyzing scenarios where one particle has a mass of m and the other has a mass of 2m. In part A, the final velocities are determined to be v_1 = 0 and v_2 = v, indicating that particle 1 transfers all its momentum to particle 2. In part B, the same principles apply, and participants are encouraged to use the momentum and kinetic energy equations to derive the final velocities. The key equations used include momentum conservation (mv_1 + mv_2 = mv) and kinetic energy conservation (0.5m(v_1)^2 + 0.5m(v_2)^2 = 0.5mv^2).

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Homework Statement


Let two particles of equal mass m collide. Particle 1 has initial velocity v, directed to the right, and particle 2 is initially stationary.

A: If the collision is elastic, what are the final velocities v_1 and v_2 of particles 1 and 2?

B: Now assume that the mass of particle 1 is 2m, while the mass of particle 2 remains m. If the collision is elastic, what are the final velocities v_1 and v_2 of particles 1 and 2?

Homework Equations


i:[/B] mv_1 + mv_2 = mv
ii: 0.5m(v_1)^2 + 0.5m(v_2)^2 = 0.5mv^2
iii: 2mv_1 + mv_2 = 2mv
iv: 0.5(2m)(v_1)^2 + 0.5m(v_2)^2 = 0.5(2m)v^2

The Attempt at a Solution


For A, after factoring out m and rearranging equation i to solve for v_2 I replaced v_2 in equation i with v_2 = (v - v_1) to yield:
v_1 + v_2 = v_1 + (v - v_1) = v_1 - v_1 + v = v, therefore
v = v.

I guessed (correctly) that v_1 = 0 and v_2 = v, but I'm not sure how I can find those answers using this equation.

It's the same thing with part B.

I tried rearranging the kinetic energy equations ii and iv for both parts A and B but still came out with such useless results as v^2 = v^2.

Why does particle 1 in part A transfer all of its momentum to particle 2?
 
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HSchuster said:

Homework Statement


Let two particles of equal mass m collide. Particle 1 has initial velocity v, directed to the right, and particle 2 is initially stationary.

A: If the collision is elastic, what are the final velocities v_1 and v_2 of particles 1 and 2?

B: Now assume that the mass of particle 1 is 2m, while the mass of particle 2 remains m. If the collision is elastic, what are the final velocities v_1 and v_2 of particles 1 and 2?

Homework Equations


i:[/B] mv_1 + mv_2 = mv
ii: 0.5m(v_1)^2 + 0.5m(v_2)^2 = 0.5mv^2
iii: 2mv_1 + mv_2 = 2mv
iv: 0.5(2m)(v_1)^2 + 0.5m(v_2)^2 = 0.5(2m)v^2

The Attempt at a Solution


For A, after factoring out m and rearranging equation i to solve for v_2 I replaced v_2 in equation i with v_2 = (v - v_1) to yield:
v_1 + v_2 = v_1 + (v - v_1) = v_1 - v_1 + v = v, therefore
v = v.

I guessed (correctly) that v_1 = 0 and v_2 = v, but I'm not sure how I can find those answers using this equation.

Substitute v_2 = (v - v_1) into the energy equation.

HSchuster said:
It's the same thing with part B.
Again, use both equations, momentum and energy. Express v_2 with v_1 from the momentum equation and substitute into the energy equation.
HSchuster said:
I tried rearranging the kinetic energy equations ii and iv for both parts A and B but still came out with such useless results as v^2 = v^2.

Why does particle 1 in part A transfer all of its momentum to particle 2?
It is the solution of the system of equation i and ii.
 
ehild said:
Substitute v_2 = (v - v_1) into the energy equation.Again, use both equations, momentum and energy. Express v_2 with v_1 from the momentum equation and substitute into the energy equation.

It is the solution of the system of equation i and ii.

That makes sense, thanks!
 

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