Comparing Numbers Using a Special Function

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The problem involves comparing the numbers \( e^{\pi} \) and \( \pi^e \) using the function \( f(x) = x^{1/x} \) for \( x > 0 \). Participants are exploring the properties of this function to determine which of the two expressions is larger.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to start the problem and mentions finding the derivative without clarity on its usefulness. Some participants suggest using a hint related to exponentiation to transform the comparison into a more manageable form.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints and others attempting to clarify their reasoning. There is a recognition of a potential misunderstanding regarding the behavior of the function, leading to further exploration of specific values to test the function's properties.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the function's increasing and decreasing behavior, prompting participants to check specific values for clarity. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts and corrections without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


Use the function ##f(x)=x^{1/x} \, ,\, x>0##, to determine the bigger of two numbers ##e^{\pi}## and ##\pi^e##.


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I honestly don't know where to begin with this problem. I found the derivative but that seems to be of no help. The function increases when x>1/e and decreases when 0<x<1/e.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Hint: a<b is equivalent to a^c < b^c for positive a,b,c. Can you find a c such that your expressions look like x^(1/x)?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
. The function increases when x>1/e and decreases when 0<x<1/e.
Doesn't sound right. What do you get for x = 1, 2, 4, 16?
 
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haruspex said:
Doesn't sound right. What do you get for x = 1, 2, 4, 16?

Oops, its just the opposite of what I posted.

I have tried the problem again.
##f(e)>f(\pi) \Rightarrow e^{1/e}>\pi^{1/\pi}##
Raising both the sides to the power ##e\pi##
$$e^{\pi}>\pi^e$$

Looks correct?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Oops, its just the opposite of what I posted.

I have tried the problem again.
##f(e)>f(\pi) \Rightarrow e^{1/e}>\pi^{1/\pi}##
Raising both the sides to the power ##e\pi##
$$e^{\pi}>\pi^e$$

Looks correct?

Looks correct.
 
Dick said:
Looks correct.

Thank you Dick and haruspex! :smile:
 

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