Complement question (statistics)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of a customer not purchasing any items, given the probabilities of purchasing various clothing items (suit, shirt, tie) and their combinations. The subject area is statistics, specifically focusing on probability theory and the concept of complements.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to use the complement of the probability of purchasing at least one item to find the probability of not buying anything. They express confusion about their approach and seek clarification on the assumptions made regarding independence of events.
  • Some participants question the assumption of independence and suggest that the original poster's method does not account for all possible combinations of purchases.
  • Others propose considering the various combinations of items purchased, indicating that the original approach may overlook certain scenarios.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider multiple combinations of purchases rather than just the complement of a single group. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants continue to question the assumptions and reasoning presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of independence versus disjoint events in the context of probability. There is a lack of clarity regarding the relationships between the events of purchasing different items, which may affect the calculations being discussed.

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"the probability to buy a suite is 0.22
the probability to buy a shirt is 0.3
the probability to buy a tie is 0.28
the probability to buy a suite and shirt is 0.11
the probability to buy a suite and tie is 0.14
the probability to buy a tie and shirt is 0.28

what is the probability that the customer will not by anything?"

i was told that the probability that the customer will not by anything
equals the complement of the probability that he buys at least 1 item
why?

as i see it to solve it we need to do
not buy a shirt AND not buy a tie AND not buy suite=
(1-0.11)*(1-0.14)*(1-0.1)=0.68

why am i wrong?
 
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First, iN your approach you are assuming the choices are independent - they may not be.

Second, you are trying to find thechance JUST that group of 3 things; you haven't accounted for the purchase of a subset of them.

Think this way: either some item ispurchased or nothing is -those are complements.
 
of course the choises are independent
a shirt differs from a tie etc..

"you are trying to find thechance JUST that group of 3 things; you haven't accounted for the purchase of a subset of them. "
and i don't want to encounter their purchase
thats why i am doing complement

i still can't see my mistake in this way.

i tried to think your way
so i need the complement of
"either some item is purchased"
so we have 7 combinations
to buy some thing
_ _ _

for example :
to buy a tie and a suite but not to buy a shirt

etc..

why not
not buy a shirt AND not buy a tie AND not buy suite=
(1-0.11)*(1-0.14)*(1-0.1)=0.68thats a lot
is there easier way?
 
lom said:
of course the choises are independent
a shirt differs from a tie etc..

"you are trying to find thechance JUST that group of 3 things; you haven't accounted for the purchase of a subset of them. "
and i don't want to encounter their purchase
thats why i am doing complement

i still can't see my mistake in this way.

i tried to think your way
so i need the complement of
"either some item is purchased"
so we have 7 combinations
to buy some thing
_ _ _

for example :
to buy a tie and a suite but not to buy a shirt

etc..

why not
not buy a shirt AND not buy a tie AND not buy suite=
(1-0.11)*(1-0.14)*(1-0.1)=0.68


thats a lot
is there easier way?

IF the only two possibilities were to purchase all three items or to purchase nothing, your idea (not the calculation, as you don't know whether the choices to purchase the items are independent) would be correct.


However, there are more than two choices:

* purchase nothing
* purchase exactly one of the three items
* purchase exactly two of the three items
* purchase all of the items

Now do you see why, and where, your approach goes awry?
 
why you think that those events are linked??

buying a tie is not buying a shirt?
 
lom said:
why you think that those events are linked??

buying a tie is not buying a shirt?

You are confusing disjoint (events having nothing in common) with independent (a probability based idea).

The events "buy only a tie" and "buy only a shirt" are disjoint - there are no outcomes in common. THEY ARE NOT independent: if you tell me the person purchased a tie (and only a tie), then I know the probability they purchased a shirt is zero.
 

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