[complex functions] finding complex roots in 1+z+az^n

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The discussion centers on finding roots of the complex function W(z) = 1 + z + az^n, where a is a complex number and n is a natural number greater than 1. The initial query involves demonstrating that W(z) has a root within the boundary |z_k| <= 2. Participants clarify that the roots do not form a circle of radius 2 and suggest proving that |W(z)| exceeds a positive value for |z| > 2, indicating no solutions exist outside this circle. The original poster later discovers a relevant resource and realizes the relationship between W(z) and W(1/z), ultimately solving the problem. The thread concludes with the poster expressing readiness to share the solution or have the thread deleted.
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Hi,

I have a big problem in solving such question:

Let W(z) = 1 + z + az^n, where a is complex and n is natural and greater than 1. Show that W(z) has a root that satisfies |z_k| &lt;=2.

I have no ideas how to solve it. I thought about integrating W and showing that it's roots create a circle with radius equal to 2, but it completely didnt work. I would appreciate if someone could give me a clue, as I really can't see any way of solving this one.

rahl
 
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Well, of course, the roots do NOT "create a circle with radius equal to 2".


Show that the absolute value, |W(z)|, is greater than some positive value for |z|> 2, so that there is no solution outside that circle.
 
of course they dont, I don't know what I was thinking when writing that.

Show that the absolute value, |W(z)|, is greater than some positive value for |z|> 2, so that there is no solution outside that circle.
I don't understand what you are implying.
Let z=4 and a = \frac{-5}{4^n}. In that case |W(4)|=0, so there obviously is a solution outside that circle.

EDIT:
I have googled a hint:
http://www.math.cornell.edu/~barbasch/courses/418-06/p2sz.pdf
problem 3 is exactly my problem. Do I have to know what do these two polynomials W(z) and W(1/z) have in common, to succesfully use that replacement? I realize that W(1/z) will have the same roots as (z^n+z^{n-1}+a), which is a polynomial that we can get, when switching the coefficients in W(z): the first one with the last one, the second one with the prelast one, and so on. But what do they have in common apart from switched coefficients? And what about the roots of that switched polynomial? Where are they situated? I can't find any answer to this questions, I'd be grateful for any clues.

EDIT2:
I've finally solved it. Moderators can delete this thread or I can write the solution and let the thread live.

rahl
 
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