Complex Number's Assignment (From my signals class)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around complex numbers, specifically focusing on their properties, conjugation, and representations in both rectangular and polar forms. Participants are addressing homework questions related to these topics, including the square root of complex numbers and sketching functions involving complex exponentials.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the calculation of the square root of j, suggesting that the professor may be looking for the real and imaginary parts of the result, and notes that the square root has two solutions.
  • Another participant proposes expressing j in polar form using Euler's identity to derive the square root of j.
  • For the complex conjugate, a participant suggests expressing w in polar form and deriving w* in terms of w in polar form.
  • Participants discuss the sketching of functions involving complex exponentials, with one asking for guidance on handling the sum of terms in the exponent.
  • One participant encourages the use of LaTeX for mathematical expressions to improve clarity in the forum.
  • A later reply suggests drawing w and its conjugate on the x-y plane and observing their polar form relationships.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various approaches to the problems, and while there are suggestions and clarifications, no consensus is reached on the correct methods or solutions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation and calculation of the problems.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note potential missing assumptions in the problems, such as the need for clarity on what is being asked regarding the polar form and the implications of the square root having two solutions. There is also a mention of the limitations of the textbook used for reference.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying complex numbers, particularly in the context of signals and systems, may find this discussion relevant for understanding the nuances of complex conjugation and polar representation.

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Q1. If j = square root of - 1 what is square root of j ?


what I did was : Plug in the value of j in square root of j and came up with -1 to the power of 0.25.

Is this right. Looks like this wrong.

Q2. Given a complex number w = x + jy, the complex congugate of w is defined in rectangular coordinates as w* = x-jy. Use this fact to derive complex congugation in polar form.


What I did was : multiply both w * w* and came up with x ^ 2 + y ^2

and I know euler's formula e ^(jtheta) = cos (theta) + i sin (theta)

Is this right, probably not, can someone guide me here as well.

Q3. By hand sketch the following against independent variable t:

(a) x2(t) = I am (3 - e(1-j2pi)t)


There is another two also in these parts, One with the real part given and another one with x3(t) = 3 - Im(e(1-j2pi)t)

How do I do these problems ? Please anyone help me. The book is worthless. It just talks about basics on complex numbers, congugates , polar forms etc.

But this HW has been a pain believe me...:cry:
 
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Naeem said:
Q1. If j = square root of - 1 what is square root of j ?what I did was : Plug in the value of j in square root of j and came up with -1 to the power of 0.25.

Is this right. Looks like this wrong.

i think your prof wants to know what the real part and imaginary part of [itex]\sqrt{j}[/itex] is. (maybe magnitude and angle, but that would be too easy.) remember, the square root of anything has two solutions.
Q2. Given a complex number w = x + jy, the complex congugate of w is defined in rectangular coordinates as w* = x-jy. Use this fact to derive complex congugation in polar form.What I did was : multiply both w * w* and came up with x ^ 2 + y ^2

and I know euler's formula e ^(jtheta) = cos (theta) + i sin (theta)

Is this right, probably not, can someone guide me here as well.

you are being asked to express [itex]w[/itex] in polar form and [itex]w^*[/itex] in terms of [itex]w[/itex] in polar form. i think that is the case.

Q3. By hand sketch the following against independent variable t:

(a) x2(t) = I am (3 - e(1-j2pi)t)There is another two also in these parts, One with the real part given and another one with x3(t) = 3 - Im(e(1-j2pi)t)

How do I do these problems ? Please anyone help me. The book is worthless. It just talks about basics on complex numbers, congugates , polar forms etc.

But this HW has been a pain believe me...:cry:

what do you know about the exponential? what happens when the exponent is the sum of two terms? what do you do with it?

try using [itex]\LaTeX[/itex] to express your math here on this forum. we ain't USENET here where you need to rely on "ASCII math".
 
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For Q2: Say your given [itex]w = x + jy[/itex]. Arbitrarily draw this on the x-y plane. Now draw [itex]w^*[/itex]. Express w in polar form. What do you notice about w* in polar form?
 
For Q1: One way to solve this is express j in polar form. You can get this from Euler's identiy and see that [itex]e^{j \pi /2} = \cos (\pi/2)+ j \sin (\pi/2) = j[/itex]. Then you have

[tex]\sqrt{j} = \sqrt{e^{j \pi /2}}[/tex]
 

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