Complex Numbers finding values

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of k in the equation arg((z1z2)/2i) = π, given specific arguments for z1 and z2. Participants clarify the need to express the argument of the product and quotient of complex numbers using properties similar to logarithmic identities. Confusion arises regarding the role of the imaginary unit i in the calculations, with suggestions to refer to external resources for better understanding. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying the argument function and recognizing the angle associated with the complex number i. Ultimately, the focus remains on resolving the equation to find k while addressing misconceptions about the argument of complex numbers.
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Homework Statement



Given that arg((z1z2)/2i) = \pi, find a value of k.

Homework Equations



arg z2=2\pi=0

arg z1=\pi/6


The Attempt at a Solution



((\pi/6)^k x (2\pi))/ (2i) = \pi

I'm not sure what to do with the imaginary number i..
 
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lunds002 said:
Given that arg((z1z2)/2i) = \pi, find a value of k.

You're missing a k in the problem. Where is it missing?
 
Oops, should be arg ( z1 x z2^k) / (2i)
 
lunds002 said:
Oops, should be arg ( z1 x z2^k) / (2i)

You should be able to get it by expanding the arg function.

E.g. arg(z1z1)=arg(z1)+arg(z2).

(the rules are similar to log rules)
 
Okay so then I get

arg(z1^k) + arg(z2) = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = 2i(pi)

Not sure what to do with the imaginary i
 
lunds002 said:
Okay so then I get

arg(z1^k) + arg(z2) = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = pi
2i

(pi/6)^k + 2pi = 2i(pi)

Not sure what to do with the imaginary i

Check the wikipedia page on argument for how to deal with arg(z1/z2). It's similar to how you expand loga(x/y).

You should know what arg(i) is equal to.
 
Okay so I know z1/z2 = r1/r2 cis (theta-\psi)

I don't really understand how that applies here though

And you're right, I do know that arg(i) = -1
 
lunds002 said:
Okay so I know z1/z2 = r1/r2 cis (theta-\psi)

I don't really understand how that applies here though

And you're right, I do know that arg(i) = -1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_(complex_analysis)#Identities

arg(i) is the angle formed by the z=i and the positive real axis. z=i is the line perpendicular to the positive real axis, so arg(i) is not -1 but ?
 
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