Discover How to Solve Complex Numbers with Ease

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The discussion centers on solving complex number equations, specifically using the quadratic formula for equations like x^2 - 6x + 25 = 0, which yields solutions x = 3 + 4i and x = 3 - 4i. Participants explore the applicability of the quadratic formula to higher degree polynomials, such as x^4 + 3x^2 - 4 = 0 and x^2 + ix + 6 = 0, confirming that the quadratic formula can be used in these cases as well. They also discuss alternative methods like completing the square and factoring for more complex equations, noting that x^4 + 3x^2 - 4 can be factored to find both real and complex roots. Overall, the conversation emphasizes various strategies for solving complex number equations effectively.
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Complex numbers ... help needed!

In our exercises we are told to solve for x (element of a complex number)
1. x^2 - 6x + 25=0
The answer is x=3+4i or x=3-4i
Can anyone tell me how these answers were derived??
 
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cmantzioros said:
Can anyone tell me how these answers were derived??[/B]

Are you familiar with the quadratic formula?
 
Yes, I may be able to get the answer using the quad. formula for this one but what about if I had:

x^4+3x^2-4=0

or

x^2+ix+6=0
 
can't you just use the quadratic equation?

edit:

whoops i was too slow.
 
andrewchang said:
can't you just use the quadratic equation?

edit:

whoops i was too slow.

Quad. form. can only be used when the x-term is of degree 2 ... any idea on how to solve for x in the above eqns?
 
is it possible to write it into polar complex form and solve the equation?
 
andrewchang said:
is it possible to write it into polar complex form and solve the equation?

We haven't covered this topic yet so I'm not quite sure how you would use it
 
You could always complete the square, and set that equal to -16.

x^2 - 6x + 9 + (25-9) = 0

x^2 - 6x + 9 = -16

can you take it from there?

quadratic formula does basically the same thing, and you can skip half a dozen steps if you remember it..
 
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cmantzioros said:
Yes, I may be able to get the answer using the quad. formula for this one but what about if I had:
x^4+3x^2-4=0
or
x^2+ix+6=0
Those are both quite doable with the quadratic formula:
x^4+3x^2-4=\left(x^2\right)^2+3 \left(x^2\right) + 3
so
x^2= \frac{-3 \pm \sqrt{3^2-4(1)(3)}}{2}
and
x^2+ix+6
is no problem:
x=\frac{-i \pm \sqrt{i^2-4(1)(6)}}{2}
 
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Hammie said:
You could always complete the square, and set that equal to -16.

x^2 - 6x + 9 + (25-9) = 0

x^2 - 6x + 9 = -16

can you take it from there?

quadratic formula does basically the same thing, and you can skip half a dozen steps if you remember it..

Thanks that does work ... any ideas on the other ones?
 
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NateTG said:
Those are both quite doable with the quadratic formula:
x^4+3x^2-4=\left(x^2\right)^2+3 \left(x^2\right) + 3
so
x^2= \frac{-3 \pm \sqrt{3^2-4(1)(3)}}{2}
and
x^2+ix+6
is no problem:
x=\frac{-i \pm \sqrt{i^2-4(1)(6)}}{2}

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. :smile:
 
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x^4 + 3x^2 - 4 = 0 factors into two "pieces". One has a complex solution, the other does not.

Note: there are four roots to the equation. You should have two complex, and two real solutions.
 
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Hammie said:
x^4 + 3x^2 - 4 = 0 factors into two "pieces". One has a complex solution, the other does not.

Note: there are four roots to the equation. You should have two complex, and two real solutions.
In this case the quadratic formula works, but for other high polynomial funtions you're probably better off with synthetic devision, factoring, and the like. For instance:

(1)^4 + 3(1)^2 - 4 = 0
So:
x^4 + 3x^2 - 4 = (x-1)(x^3 + x^2 + 4x + 4) = 0
(-1)^3 + (-1)^2 + 4(-1) + 4 = 0
So:
(x-1)(x+1)(x^2 + 4) = 0

Real roots are 1 and -1
Complex roots are +2i and -2i
 
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