Complex Numbers: Understanding Multiplication, Angles, and Length

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1) A mathemetician is willing to sell you something valued at $i^i. Would you pay him 20 cents for it?

2) Let z=(z1/z2) where z1 = a+ib and z2 = c+id. Show the angle of z is the difference between angle z1 and z2.

3) Show that multiplying any vector by e^ix doesn't alter its length.


My attempts:

1) Tried using cosx + isinx to no avail. Honestly have no idea where to begin.
2) First I found the z by multiplying it out. let x be the angle. so i did tanx = bc-ad/ac+bd. Individually, you get tanx1 = b/a and tanx2=d/c which is not the same.
3) in the length formula i end up with cos^2-sin^2 which does alter length.

ruined my thanks giving, so i give up onthese.
 
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Howers said:
1) Tried using cosx + isinx to no avail. Honestly have no idea where to begin.
You're more or less on the right track...use Euler's formula/identity.

2) First I found the z by multiplying it out. let x be the angle. so i did tanx = bc-ad/ac+bd. Individually, you get tanx1 = b/a and tanx2=d/c which is not the same.
Again, this is correct. You just need to show that difference of the angles is equal to arctan((bc-ad)/(ac+bd)). Look up trig. identites.

3) in the length formula i end up with cos^2-sin^2 which does alter length..

I don't quite understand what question 3 asks for. Sorry.
 
Euler's Identity

1)
So you're solving for i^i. The Euler's Identity states that e^{\pi i}+1=0. Using just this identity, many other quantities can be derived, including our i^i.

Start by subtracting 1 from both sides, then getting the square root of both sides:
e^{\frac{1}{2}\pi i}=(-1)^{\frac{1}{2}}

(-1)^{\frac{1}{2}} obviously can be written as \sqrt{-1}, which simplifies to i:
e^{\frac{1}{2}\pi i}=i

Now raise both sides to the power of \frac{1}{i}:
e^{\frac{1}{2}\pi i\frac{1}{i}}=i^{\frac{1}{i}}
e^{\frac{1}{2}\pi}=i^{\frac{1}{i}}

Since \frac{1}{i} equals i^{-1}, substitute:
e^{\frac{1}{2}\pi}=i^{i^{-i}}

Now simply raise both sides to the power of -1:
e^{-\frac{1}{2}\pi}=i^{i}

And voila: i^{i} = e^{-\frac{1}{2}\pi} = 0.207879576 ...

Now you be the economist and tell me whether you will accept the offer or not.
 
Howers said:
3) in the length formula i end up with cos^2-sin^2 which does alter length.

Close. We want to have the magnitude (absolute value) of e^ix = 1. So we write e^ix in the form of cos(x)+isin(x). Finding the magnitude of this is done by finding the square root of the sum of the squares so sqrt(cos(x)^2 + sin(x)^2). You'll notice that the i dropped out. This is because the definition of the magnitude of a set of terms is simply sqrt(t1^2+t2^2+...tn^2). We don't care that i^2 is -1, we still sum the term.

I think you'll agree that cos(x)^2+sin(x)^2 is 1 and that sqrt(1) is 1.

To the mods, the only reason I gave the full answer was that the OP was basically there, s/he just needed to see why it was positive sin(x)^2.
 
For 3, the simplest way to do it is to write the general complex number in polar form:

z= r e^{i\theta}.

Which quantity gives the length? Does multiplying by e^{ix} affect this quantity?
 
for second question a quicker way is to convert to the polar form and then u can see the angle of z1/z2

for first question i=e^i*pi/2 (since sine(pi/2)=1) raise this to "i" power u immediately get e^-pi/2.
 
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real10 said:
for first question i=e^j*pi/2 (since sine(pi/2)=1) raise this to "i" power u immediately get e^-pi/2.

Good work, but try to stick to one notation for the imaginary unit at a time. Are you a physics or engineering student?
 
Gib Z said:
Good work, but try to stick to one notation for the imaginary unit at a time. Are you a physics or engineering student?

lol sorry EE undergraduate hehe

EDIT: everything changed to i now
 
Gib Z said:
For 3, the simplest way to do it is to write the general complex number in polar form:

z= r e^{i\theta}.

Which quantity gives the length? Does multiplying by e^{ix} affect this quantity?

That's not really a proof. That's saying that e^xi doesn't affect the length because... well it doesn't affect the length.
 
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I disagree. You can always calculate the norm of the vector before and after, and show that it is the same.
 
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