Complex Solutions Homework - Find Zeros of Equation

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The discussion focuses on finding the zeros of a complex equation and highlights the misunderstanding regarding the nature of the roots. It clarifies that roots of a quadratic equation are conjugates only when the coefficients are real, which is not the case here. The user attempts to apply the formula for complex roots but encounters issues with the calculations of the real part and magnitude. Participants suggest using the quadratic formula or completing the square as effective methods for solving the equation. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing the conditions under which roots are conjugates in complex equations.
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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution



I figure if i just find 1 zero of the equation i can use its conjugate as the other zero, then I guess it's complete.

I know this:

where a is an element of C (Complex)

(z - a) (z - a(conj)) = z^2 - 2(Re a)z + |a|^2

so.. using this

2(Re a) = 1 + 3i
and
|a|^2 = -1 + 3i/4

But what to do from here?
 
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Hmm perhaps I have to find the discriminant:

which is -4 + 3i

so z = (-(1 + 3i) +- i(sqrt (4 - 3i)))/2

:/ doesn't look too correct
 
quadratic equation …

This is an ordinary quadratic equation.

Just solve it the ordinary way. :smile:

(The only difficulty is that you'll have to calculate the square root of a complex number.)
 
Firepanda said:

Homework Statement



http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1381/complexle5.jpg


The Attempt at a Solution



I figure if i just find 1 zero of the equation i can use its conjugate as the other zero, then I guess it's complete.
No, that's not true. The two roots of a quadratic equation must be conjugates only if the equation has all real coefficients.

I know this:

where a is an element of C (Complex)

(z - a) (z - a(conj)) = z^2 - 2(Re a)z + |a|^2

so.. using this

2(Re a) = 1 + 3i
but that's impossible: 2(Re a) must be a real number.
Again, the roots of this equation are not complex conjugates.

and
|a|^2 = -1 + 3i/4
Once more, that's impossible. |a| is a real number, its square is a real number.

But what to do from here?
Use the quadratic formula or complete the square.
 
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