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Suppose I have two masses with mass M each connected together by a spring with spring constant k like this:
[PLAIN]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4896/springs1.png
Then I apply a force of F at both ends:
[PLAIN]http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2562/spring2.png
Then using Hooke's law F=kx, the compression of the spring x would be given by:
x=F/k
So now if I apply the same force F just to the right end like this:
[PLAIN]http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4236/spring3.png
The acceleration of the system is given by Newton's 2nd Law F=ma
F=2Ma
a=\frac{F}{2M}
And the acceleration of the mass on the left is the same as the entire system so the force is:
F_{left mass}=Ma
F_{left mass}=M\frac{F}{2M}
F_{left mass}=\frac{F}{2}
This force must be supplied by the spring so using hookes law:
\frac{F}{2}=kx
x=\frac{F}{2k}
This value is half as much as before.
Here is where I'm confused can anyone explain the difference between this and the situation described in this post http://scienceblogs.com/dotphysics/2008/10/fake-vs-real-forces/" where it is said the compression is "the compression is EXACTLY the same before"
What mistakes have I made?
[PLAIN]http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4896/springs1.png
Then I apply a force of F at both ends:
[PLAIN]http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2562/spring2.png
Then using Hooke's law F=kx, the compression of the spring x would be given by:
x=F/k
So now if I apply the same force F just to the right end like this:
[PLAIN]http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4236/spring3.png
The acceleration of the system is given by Newton's 2nd Law F=ma
F=2Ma
a=\frac{F}{2M}
And the acceleration of the mass on the left is the same as the entire system so the force is:
F_{left mass}=Ma
F_{left mass}=M\frac{F}{2M}
F_{left mass}=\frac{F}{2}
This force must be supplied by the spring so using hookes law:
\frac{F}{2}=kx
x=\frac{F}{2k}
This value is half as much as before.
Here is where I'm confused can anyone explain the difference between this and the situation described in this post http://scienceblogs.com/dotphysics/2008/10/fake-vs-real-forces/" where it is said the compression is "the compression is EXACTLY the same before"
What mistakes have I made?
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