Computing Central Force Potential: Bound from |r| to Infinity

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The discussion focuses on computing the potential for a central force defined as F(r) = f(r)r, where r represents the magnitude of the position vector. The potential V(r) is derived from the conservative force, leading to the integral V(r) = ∫(-F(r)) = ∫(-f(r)r). It is noted that this integral is bounded from |r| to infinity, with the potential conventionally set to zero at infinity for simplicity. A follow-up question addresses whether a potential exists for forces dependent on the position vector but not its magnitude, but participants express confusion regarding this scenario. The conversation highlights the challenges in understanding the conditions under which potential exists for different force dependencies.
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Hello,

I am trying to compute the potential for a central force of the form: F(r) = f(r)r
where r=|r|

Using the conservative force information, equation1 comes for potential V(r):

equation1: V(r) = \int (-F(r))= \int (-f(r) r)

In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_force" it is stated that this integral is bounded from |r| to infinity. However I could not understand the reason.

Could someone help me?
Thanks..
 
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Welcome to PF!

Hello mystraid! Welcome to PF! :wink:

It has to be bounded from |r| to somewhere

we can choose that somewhere to be anywhere, but it makes it simplest if we choose it to be ∞ (so the potential is always 0 at ∞). :smile:
 
Thank you for the reply tiny-tim.

And, I have another question. What if the function is dependent on the position vector r but not the magnitude of it?

So:

F(r) = f(r)r

Then is there any potential for such a force, and if so, under what conditions it exists?

Thanks
 
I'm sorry, I don't understand. :confused:
 
Me, too:smile:
 
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