Conceptual Collision Question -- What

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The discussion centers on a collision problem involving two balls, where Ball A strikes Ball B, initially at rest, and the focus is on deriving the post-collision velocity of Ball A (vaf). The derived expression for vaf is independent of the masses of the balls, which raises questions about its conceptual validity, especially since the expression for Ball B's velocity (vbf) does include mass. Participants suggest that introducing an initial velocity for Ball B can restore symmetry and clarify the relationship between mass and velocity post-collision. It is noted that while vaf appears mass-independent, the collision angles are influenced by the masses of the balls. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexities of momentum conservation in collisions and the interplay between mass and velocity.
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1. Question: Ball A of mass ma is traveling along the x-axis with velocity vao when it strikes Ball B of mass mb, which is at rest. After the collision, Ball A travels at an angle θ above the x-axis and Ball B travels at an angle φ below the x-axis. The final velocities of Balls A and B are vaf and vbf, respectively. Write an expression that gives the velocity of Ball A, vaf, after the collision.

2. Relevant Info: Law of Conservation of Linear Momentum

3. Solution: The expression I get for vaf is vao / (cosθ + sinθcotφ). I find this expression strange because it shows that vaf is independent of the masses of Balls A and B. However, the expression for vbf does include mass. I do not understand how this makes sense conceptually -- Could someone provide an explanation?
 
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1. Question: Ball A of mass ma is traveling along the x-axis with velocity vao when it strikes Ball B of mass mb, which is at rest. After the collision, Ball A travels at an angle θ above the x-axis and Ball B travels at an angle φ below the x-axis. The final velocities of Balls A and B are vaf and vbf, respectively. Write an expression that gives the velocity of Ball A, vaf, after the collision.

2. Relevant Info: Law of Conservation of Linear Momentum

3. Solution: The expression I get for vaf is vao / (cosθ + sinθcotφ). I find this expression strange because it shows that vaf is independent of the masses of Balls A and B. However, the expression for vbf does include mass. I do not understand how this makes sense conceptually -- Could someone provide an explanation?
Try letting B have an initial velocity vboalong the x axis. That should restore the symmetry. I think you will see then that when one initial velocity goes to zero the masses disappear from the after velocity of the other ball.
This does mot mean that the mass of the resting ball is immaterial. If you were to run the same experiment, just changing that mass, the departure angles would change.
 
My understanding is that the angle at which these bodies move after collision is actually taking into consideration, their mass. I'm not sure about this though.
 
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