Concerning Subspaces of Infinite Dimensional Vector Spaces

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The discussion revolves around constructing an infinite decreasing chain of subspaces within an infinite dimensional vector space V. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their attempts to create such a chain and seeks clarification on the existence and construction of these subspaces.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss selecting a basis for the vector space and constructing a countable chain of subspaces using spans of basis elements. There is also a question regarding the assurance that the chain will not stabilize.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on constructing the chain using basis elements, while the original poster continues to explore the implications of their construction, particularly concerning the stability of the chain.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of familiarity with infinite dimensional vector spaces, which may influence their confidence in the construction attempts. There is also a concern about ensuring that the decreasing chain remains proper.

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I have a question concerning subspaces of infinite dimensional vector spaces. Specifically given any infinite dimensional vector space V, how might one construct an infinite decreasing chain of subspaces?

That is:

V=V0\supseteqV1\supseteq... , where each Vi is properly contained in Vi-1.

I know such chains must exist and I suspect that they should be easily constructed, however I am not familiar enough with infinite dimensional vector spaces to be confident with my attempts thus far.


Thanks for any help given!
 
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Select a basis for the vector space. This should be finite, so we can select a countable chain \{e_1,e_2,e_3,e_4,...\} of basis elements.

Then

span\{e_1\}\subseteq span\{e_1,e_2\}\subseteq span \{e_1,e_2,e_3\}\subseteq ...

is an infinite chain of subspaces.
 
micromass said:
Select a basis for the vector space. This should be finite, so we can select a countable chain \{e_1,e_2,e_3,e_4,...\} of basis elements.

Then

span\{e_1\}\subseteq span\{e_1,e_2\}\subseteq span \{e_1,e_2,e_3\}\subseteq ...

is an infinite chain of subspaces.

Thanks!

So I suppose that with your notation:

V = span\{e_1,e_2,...\}\supseteq span\{e_2,e_3,...\}\supseteq... will give me the infinite decreasing chain as desired.

Thanks again for your help!

EDIT: On second thought, can I be assured that such a chain will not stabilize? It is clear in your construction for building increasing chains but it seems less intuitive for building a decreasing chain in such a way.
 
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If the e_i are components in a basis, then e_n is not in the span of {e_(n+1), e_(n+2),... }, so each inclusion will be proper.
 

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