Conservation of Energy child's toy

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a ball hitting the floor after being launched from a child's toy involving a spring and a ramp. The conservation of energy principle is applied, with the initial potential energy from the spring and gravitational potential energy being converted into kinetic energy at the moment of impact. Participants emphasize the importance of defining the initial time correctly to simplify the equations, suggesting that setting the time at the ball's highest point can eliminate unnecessary terms. The equations provided are validated, and the final expression for the ball's speed incorporates variables such as the spring constant, compression distance, mass, gravitational acceleration, ramp height, and initial height. The focus remains on accurately applying energy conservation to derive the ball's impact speed.
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Homework Statement



A child's toy consists of a block that attaches to a table with a suction cup, a spring connected to that block, a ball, and a launching ramp. The spring has a spring constant k, the ball has a mass m, and the ramp rises a height y above the table, the surface of which is a height H above the floor.

Initially, the spring rests at its equilibrium length. The spring then is compressed a distance s, where the ball is held at rest. The ball is then released, launching it up the ramp. When the ball leaves the launching ramp its velocity vector makes an angle theta with respect to the horizontal.

Throughout this problem, ignore friction and air resistance.

With what speed will the ball hit the floor?
Express the speed in terms of k, s, m, g, y, and/or H.



Homework Equations



Ki+Ui=Kf+Uf


The Attempt at a Solution



0.5ks^2+0.5m(vi^)2+mg(hi)=0.5m(vf)^2+mg(hf)

vf=sqrt[(0.5ks^2)+(0.5m(vi)^2)+0.5m]

where vi=sqrt[(ks^2-2mgy)/m]
 
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chrispat,
The equations in your attempt are all correct statements in that you have appropriate expressions for the quantities vi, Ui - spring, UI - grav, etc. However, when are you declaring your initial values? That is, when during the experiment are you setting time = 0? That decision is entirely up to you, with no wrong answer. However, there are some points in the experiment where it makes better sense to set t = 0, because it allows you to set one of the terms in Ui + Ki = Uf + Kf equal to zero.
There's no reason to have non-zero terms for both Ui - spring and Ki. If you declare your starting time so that you can zero one of these terms out, it will make the problem easier.
 
Ok so I took t=0 to be when the ball is at its highest point.

0.5m(vi)^2+mg(hi)=1/2m(vf)^2

(vi)^2+2gh=vf^2

Substituting for vi:

[ks^2-2mgy/m]^2+2gh=vf^2
 
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