Calculating Angular Momentum of Disc with Mass Falling 6cm from Center

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the speed of a solid disc with a diameter of 30 cm and a mass of 700 grams after a mass of 350 grams falls 6 cm from the center, assuming there are no external torques. The speaker initially struggles with incorporating the additional mass and distance into the problem but eventually figures out the solution. The final formula used is బ initial * I initial/I final=బ final.
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If I have a solid disc with a diameter of 30 cm and a mass of 700 grams with a speed of 45 rpm, and a mass of 350 grams falls 6 cm from center what is the speed of the disc. There are also no external torques.


I have no problem solving the angular momentum of the disc before the mass falls on it.

L=Iబ which is L=1/2(.7 *.15^2)*4.9
L=3.85*10^-2

From there I do not know how to incorporate the 350 grams or the 6 cm into the problem.
 
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Never mind I found out what I was doing wrong.

Instead of: L initial = L final I used the: I initial + I gum=I final

I then did: బ initial * I initial + బ gum*I gum=బ final*I final

Since బ gum had no angular speed I ended up with:
బ initial * I initial =బ final * I final
and since I figured up I final I was able to divide it out and get బ final by itself.

బ initial * I initial/I final=బ final

and arrived at the answer. :rofl:
 
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To incorporate the 350 grams and 6 cm into the problem, we can use the conservation of angular momentum principle. This principle states that the total angular momentum of a system remains constant, unless acted upon by an external torque. Since there are no external torques acting on the disc, the total angular momentum before and after the mass falls will be the same.

Before the mass falls, the angular momentum of the disc is given by L=1/2(Iω), where I is the moment of inertia and ω is the angular velocity. Using the given values, we can calculate the initial angular momentum as L=1/2(0.7*0.15^2)*(45/60*2π)= 0.0376 kgm^2/s.

After the mass falls, the angular momentum of the disc and the mass combined can be calculated as L=1/2(Iω)+(mvr), where m is the mass of the falling object, v is its linear velocity, and r is the distance from the center of the disc. We can assume that the disc and the mass are rotating at the same angular velocity, ω, after the mass falls. We can also assume that the linear velocity of the mass, v, is equal to the linear velocity of the disc at the point of contact, since there are no external forces acting on the system.

Substituting the values given in the problem, we get L=1/2(0.7*0.15^2)*(45/60*2π)+ (0.35*0.06*45/60)= 0.0381 kgm^2/s.

Finally, we can equate the initial and final angular momenta and solve for ω, which will give us the angular velocity of the disc after the mass falls:

0.0376= 0.0381

ω= 0.0381/0.0376= 1.01 rad/s.

Therefore, the speed of the disc after the mass falls is 1.01 rad/s or 9.64 rpm, assuming the disc was initially rotating at 45 rpm.
 

1. How do you calculate the angular momentum of a disc with mass falling 6cm from the center?

The formula for calculating angular momentum is L = Iω, where L is the angular momentum, I is the moment of inertia, and ω is the angular velocity. To calculate the angular momentum of a disc with mass falling 6cm from the center, you will need to know the moment of inertia and the angular velocity at the given distance.

2. What is the moment of inertia for a disc?

The moment of inertia for a disc is given by the formula I = ½mr², where m is the mass of the disc and r is the distance from the center of the disc to the point of rotation. In this case, r would be 6cm.

3. How do you find the angular velocity of a falling disc?

The angular velocity of a falling disc can be found using the formula ω = v/r, where v is the linear velocity of the disc and r is the distance from the center of the disc to the point of rotation. The linear velocity can be calculated using the formula v = √(2gh), where g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s²) and h is the height from which the disc is falling (6cm in this case).

4. Can you use this formula for objects other than discs?

Yes, this formula for calculating angular momentum can be used for any object that is rotating around a fixed axis. However, the moment of inertia and angular velocity will vary depending on the shape and size of the object.

5. How does the angular momentum change as the disc falls?

The angular momentum of the disc will remain constant as it falls, as long as there are no external forces acting on it. This is due to the conservation of angular momentum, which states that the total angular momentum of a system remains constant in the absence of external torques.

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