Conservation of Work and Energy

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The discussion revolves around understanding the derivation of the equation for velocity just after impact, specifically $$v_y = \sqrt{2g(0.6)}$$. Participants clarify that the same conservation of energy principles used before impact apply after impact, with the initial height set to zero and the final height at 0.6 m. The confusion stems from the assumption that the initial velocity (u) after impact is zero, which is addressed by reviewing the energy conservation equation. The key takeaway is that the system's energy is conserved, allowing for the calculation of velocity after the impact using the appropriate parameters. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the importance of applying consistent principles of energy conservation in both pre- and post-impact scenarios.
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Hello, I am having trouble understanding the logic behind the solution to the posted problem. How did they deduce the equation for "Just after impact" ? I don't see how
$$v_y = \sqrt{2g(0.6)}$$

What assumptions did they make or how did they get this simplified equation?

I understand how they got the formula for "Just before impact"

In the y direction:
$$mg(1.6)+0.5m(0)^2 = mg(0)+0.5mv_f^2$$
$$v = \sqrt{2g(1.6)}$$

But I don't see how they applied this formula for "just after impact"

Any guidance is really appreciated.

Thank you for your time.

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They are applying the formula for motion under constant acceleration because there is a resultant force acting on the plate. It is actually v2=u2+2as
 
So what happened to u2 ? Why is it assumed to be 0 here?
 
sakonpure6 said:

Homework Statement


Hello, I am having trouble understanding the logic behind the solution to the posted problem. How did they deduce the equation for "Just after impact" ? I don't see how
$$v_y = \sqrt{2g(0.6)}$$I understand how they got the formula for "Just before impact"

In the y direction:
$$mg(1.6)+0.5m(0)^2 = mg(0)+0.5mv_f^2$$
$$v = \sqrt{2g(1.6)}$$

Apply the same logic for the energy of the system after collision.
 
u is not assumed to be 0. Look back at the previous diagram and u will know why =)
 
sakonpure6 said:
I understand how they got the formula for "Just before impact"

In the y direction:
$$mg(1.6)+0.5m(0)^2 = mg(0)+0.5mv_f^2$$
$$v = \sqrt{2g(1.6)}$$

But I don't see how they applied this formula for "just after impact"
Use the same equation for conservation of energy mgh+0.5mvy2=constant, but with initial height 0 and velocity unknown and final velocity zero at height 0.6 m.
 
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