Consider the potential field V(x, y) which is 0 and -Vo(Vo>0

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The discussion revolves around a potential field V(x, y) defined as 0 and -Vo (where Vo > 0) in different regions of the y-axis. The problem involves analyzing the angles of incidence and refraction (θ and θ') of a particle as it crosses the x-axis, with a focus on the ratio sin(θ) / sin(θ ') expressed in terms of Δ = Vo / E.

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  • Participants explore the application of Snell's law to a particle's motion in a potential field, questioning the validity of the equations used. Some express uncertainty about the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy in this context.

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There is ongoing exploration of how Snell's law applies to particles rather than light, with some participants suggesting the need to derive a modified version of Snell's law for this scenario. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the behavior of velocities and angles during the transition between potential regions.

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Participants are considering the implications of positive potential energy and its effect on particle behavior, as well as the need for clarity on the definitions and assumptions underlying the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Consider the potential field V(x, y) which is 0 and -Vo (V0 > 0) respectively in the regions
of y greater and less than zero . Let θ and θ' be the angles of incidence and refraction of
the particle with the y-axis at the point of incidence as it crosses the x-axis . The ratio
sin(θ) / sin(θ ') is given (in terms of Δ = Vo / E) by
region1
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region2
(a)√(1+2Vο/E)
(b)√(1+Vο/E)
(c)1+Vο/E
(d)1+2Vο/E

Homework Equations


nsinθ=n'sinθ'
sinθ/sinθ'=v/v'[where v=velocity of particle in 1 & v'in 2]

The Attempt at a Solution


1/2mv2=E=1/2mv'2-Vο
1/2mv'2-1/2mv2=Vο
(v'2 -v2)/v2=2Vο/mv2
(v'2 /v2 )-1=Vο/(1/2mv2)
∴sinθ'/sinθ=√(1+Vο/E)

Which is similar to option b but in question it is sinθ/sinθ'
 
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pallab said:
sinθ/sinθ'=v/v' [where v=velocity of particle in 1 & v'in 2]
Are you sure this equation is correct? If Vo is positive, which would be larger: v or v'? θ or θ'?
 
I have just used snell's law.
θ∝v
but I am not sure about increase or decrease of kinetic energy in the presence of potential +ve or -ve.
 
TSny said:
Are you sure this equation is correct? If Vo is positive, which would be larger: v or v'? θ or θ'?
I have just used snell's law.
θ∝v
but I am not sure about increase or decrease of kinetic energy in the presence of potential +ve or -ve.
 
This problem deals with a particle moving from a region of zero potential energy to another region of constant potential energy -Vo.

For this situation, Snell's law as written for light ##\frac{\sin \theta_1}{v_1} = \frac{\sin \theta_2}{v_2}## does not apply. Have you covered how Snell's law is modified for the particle situation?
 
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TSny said:
This problem deals with a particle moving from a region of zero potential energy to another region of constant potential energy -Vo.

For this situation, Snell's law as written for light ##\frac{\sin \theta_1}{v_1} = \frac{\sin \theta_2}{v_2}## does not apply. Have you covered how Snell's law is modified for the particle situation?
No.
TSny said:
This problem deals with a particle moving from a region of zero potential energy to another region of constant potential energy -Vo.

For this situation, Snell's law as written for light ##\frac{\sin \theta_1}{v_1} = \frac{\sin \theta_2}{v_2}## does not apply. Have you covered how Snell's law is modified for the particle situation?
No.
 
Then you will need to derive "Snell's law" for the particle.

As a start, consider the x and y components of the velocity of the particle.
Does vx change when the particle passes through the origin?
Does vy change?
 

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